Associativity and splitting of three compound names












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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?






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    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:14






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    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:41










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:49






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    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 12:49








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    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 14:46
















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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?






compounds mathematics







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  • 1




    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:14






  • 1




    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:41










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:49






  • 1




    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 12:49








  • 1




    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 14:46














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Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?






compounds mathematics







share|improve this question















Pre-question (answered here): Is there a compound word A|B with original components A and B that might be slit as A'|B' if A borrows some letters from B (or the other way around) to form A', and B' keeps the rest?



With that background:



Is there a word with three components A|B|C such that diverse associativity interpretations could lead to alternative meanings? Like (A|B)|C being different from A|(B|C) ? Or reorganizing
A'|B'|C' by creating new words with order and letter conservation?






compounds mathematics




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    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:14






  • 1




    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:41










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:49






  • 1




    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 12:49








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    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 14:46














  • 1




    I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:14






  • 1




    Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:41










  • Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 12:49






  • 1




    @Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 12:49








  • 1




    I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
    – Marzipanherz
    Nov 22 at 14:46








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I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:14




I am not 100% sure I get what you want: Are you asking for something like Ur|Instinkt <> Urin|stinkt?
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:14




1




1




Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:41




Yes, it is only proper German with a space in between, but I needed an example (even if it not fully matches). Would the components A, B, A' and B' need to be valid words when they are not used within the compound words? And are there limitations to their word classes?
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:41












Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:49




Would Ei|dotter <> EId|otter be a better example? I found it in Hubert's answer to this question.
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 12:49




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@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
Nov 22 at 12:49






@Marzipanherz Yes, I was thinking of A,B,A' and B' having to be all valid words (or A' and A prefixes and or B or B' sufixes). No limitation of word classes, I just find that in Scrabble those words should count twice :D I see my question is a dupe, thanks for the info.
– c.p.
Nov 22 at 12:49






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I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 14:46




I think, technically it's not a dupe, because you've asked in English. Plus, I can not really see a good 3-compound case in the other answers :)
– Marzipanherz
Nov 22 at 14:46










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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 15:43








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    @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    Nov 22 at 16:17



















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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






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  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 14:34












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    Nov 22 at 18:38










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 18:46






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    But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
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    Nov 22 at 20:35











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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
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    @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







share|improve this answer

















  • 1




    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 15:43








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    @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    Nov 22 at 16:17














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Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!







share|improve this answer












Example for a word with 3 components:




Die Fensterheberzeit (die Zeit, die der Heber für eine vollständige
Öffnung oder Schließung benötigt) liegt bei diesem Fahrzeug bei gerade
einmal 1,2 Sekunden.



Wer kurbelt denn heute noch, wir leben doch längst in einer Fensterheberzeit!








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    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 15:43








  • 1




    @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    Nov 22 at 16:17














  • 1




    Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
    – c.p.
    Nov 22 at 15:43








  • 1




    @c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
    – Pollitzer
    Nov 22 at 16:17








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Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
Nov 22 at 15:43






Herrlich, dass es so was gibt. Kann ich fragen, wie du auf die Idee gekommen bist?
– c.p.
Nov 22 at 15:43






1




1




@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
Nov 22 at 16:17




@c.p.: Ich habe gedanklich aus dem Fenster auf die Straße geschaut. Gesehen habe ich parkende Autos.
– Pollitzer
Nov 22 at 16:17











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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






share|improve this answer





















  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 14:34












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    Nov 22 at 18:38










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 18:46






  • 2




    But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    Nov 22 at 20:35
















3














A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






share|improve this answer





















  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 14:34












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    Nov 22 at 18:38










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 18:46






  • 2




    But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    Nov 22 at 20:35














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A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.






share|improve this answer












A classical example for such a word is Staubecken which can be read as Stau-becken (from stauen and Becken) or Staub-ecken (from Staub and Ecke).



However, the two possibilites differ in number, as the former is singular and the latter is plural.







share|improve this answer












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  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 14:34












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    Nov 22 at 18:38










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 18:46






  • 2




    But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    Nov 22 at 20:35


















  • I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 14:34












  • @Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
    – rexkogitans
    Nov 22 at 18:38










  • Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
    – Janka
    Nov 22 at 18:46






  • 2




    But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
    – RHa
    Nov 22 at 20:35
















I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
Nov 22 at 14:34






I think this should be replaced in our minds with Frustration. Much better example.
– Janka
Nov 22 at 14:34














@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
Nov 22 at 18:38




@Janka Frust-Ration and what else? I cannot see something like Fru-Stration
– rexkogitans
Nov 22 at 18:38












Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
Nov 22 at 18:46




Frus-tra-tion und Frust-ra-tion.
– Janka
Nov 22 at 18:46




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But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
Nov 22 at 20:35




But Frus-tra-tion is not a compound.
– RHa
Nov 22 at 20:35


















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