Is a function with an undefined removable discontinuity considered continuous?
I've heard a few times the definition of a continuous function simplified to "Being able to draw the graph of the function without picking our pencil".
A more rigorous definition states that a function is continuous on a domain $(a,b)$ if for all $c$ in the domain $lim_{xto c} f(x) = f(c)$.
My professor told us that a function is continuous if it continuous on it's domain, but I seem to doubt that statement because it doesn't respect the "picking pencil" rule.
If we remove a point $p$ on a continuous function where $D=rm I!R$ then its new domain is $(-infty, p) cup (p,infty)$.
Therefore this function is continuous along it's domain, so is it continuous?
continuity
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I've heard a few times the definition of a continuous function simplified to "Being able to draw the graph of the function without picking our pencil".
A more rigorous definition states that a function is continuous on a domain $(a,b)$ if for all $c$ in the domain $lim_{xto c} f(x) = f(c)$.
My professor told us that a function is continuous if it continuous on it's domain, but I seem to doubt that statement because it doesn't respect the "picking pencil" rule.
If we remove a point $p$ on a continuous function where $D=rm I!R$ then its new domain is $(-infty, p) cup (p,infty)$.
Therefore this function is continuous along it's domain, so is it continuous?
continuity
edited Nov 18 at 16:25
Paul Frost
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asked Nov 18 at 14:53
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I've heard a few times the definition of a continuous function simplified to "Being able to draw the graph of the function without picking our pencil".
A more rigorous definition states that a function is continuous on a domain $(a,b)$ if for all $c$ in the domain $lim_{xto c} f(x) = f(c)$.
My professor told us that a function is continuous if it continuous on it's domain, but I seem to doubt that statement because it doesn't respect the "picking pencil" rule.
If we remove a point $p$ on a continuous function where $D=rm I!R$ then its new domain is $(-infty, p) cup (p,infty)$.
Therefore this function is continuous along it's domain, so is it continuous?
continuity
edited Nov 18 at 16:25
Paul Frost
9,1511631
asked Nov 18 at 14:53
Cedric Martens
367211
I've heard a few times the definition of a continuous function simplified to "Being able to draw the graph of the function without picking our pencil".
A more rigorous definition states that a function is continuous on a domain $(a,b)$ if for all $c$ in the domain $lim_{xto c} f(x) = f(c)$.
My professor told us that a function is continuous if it continuous on it's domain, but I seem to doubt that statement because it doesn't respect the "picking pencil" rule.
If we remove a point $p$ on a continuous function where $D=rm I!R$ then its new domain is $(-infty, p) cup (p,infty)$.
Therefore this function is continuous along it's domain, so is it continuous?
continuity
continuity
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asked Nov 18 at 14:53
Cedric Martens
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edited Nov 18 at 16:25
Paul Frost
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Cedric Martens
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edited Nov 18 at 16:25
Paul Frost
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edited Nov 18 at 16:25
Paul Frost
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That "picking pencil" is not a "rule", it's just an intuition, and an incomplete one at that. A function defined on a domain with holes can be continuous. So you really need to amend your pencil thing to say "a function is continuous if, on each interval of its domain of definition, its graph can be drawn without picking up the pencil". And even then, this rule is incomplete, because if the domain is not open then the "interval" thing isn't very good.
You don't do math with just intuition and metaphors. You do math with precise definitions.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
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I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
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That pencil rule only gives an intuitive idea about the meaning of continuity in the case of functions whose domain is an interval, not in the general case. For instance, the function$$begin{array}{rccc}iotacolon&mathbb{R}setminus{0}&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&frac1xend{array}$$is continuous although, of cource, the pencil rule does not apply.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
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That "picking pencil" is not a "rule", it's just an intuition, and an incomplete one at that. A function defined on a domain with holes can be continuous. So you really need to amend your pencil thing to say "a function is continuous if, on each interval of its domain of definition, its graph can be drawn without picking up the pencil". And even then, this rule is incomplete, because if the domain is not open then the "interval" thing isn't very good.
You don't do math with just intuition and metaphors. You do math with precise definitions.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
40.9k470138
I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
add a comment |
That "picking pencil" is not a "rule", it's just an intuition, and an incomplete one at that. A function defined on a domain with holes can be continuous. So you really need to amend your pencil thing to say "a function is continuous if, on each interval of its domain of definition, its graph can be drawn without picking up the pencil". And even then, this rule is incomplete, because if the domain is not open then the "interval" thing isn't very good.
You don't do math with just intuition and metaphors. You do math with precise definitions.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
40.9k470138
I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
add a comment |
That "picking pencil" is not a "rule", it's just an intuition, and an incomplete one at that. A function defined on a domain with holes can be continuous. So you really need to amend your pencil thing to say "a function is continuous if, on each interval of its domain of definition, its graph can be drawn without picking up the pencil". And even then, this rule is incomplete, because if the domain is not open then the "interval" thing isn't very good.
You don't do math with just intuition and metaphors. You do math with precise definitions.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
40.9k470138
That "picking pencil" is not a "rule", it's just an intuition, and an incomplete one at that. A function defined on a domain with holes can be continuous. So you really need to amend your pencil thing to say "a function is continuous if, on each interval of its domain of definition, its graph can be drawn without picking up the pencil". And even then, this rule is incomplete, because if the domain is not open then the "interval" thing isn't very good.
You don't do math with just intuition and metaphors. You do math with precise definitions.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
40.9k470138
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
40.9k470138
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
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answered Nov 18 at 14:58
Najib Idrissi
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I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
add a comment |
I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
I would add "both intuition and" before "precise definitions". Without the intuition you don't know what the definitions should be, or how to use them.
– Ethan Bolker
Nov 18 at 16:27
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
@EthanBolker Well I did write "you don't do math with just intuition"... But fair enough.
– Najib Idrissi
Nov 18 at 16:43
add a comment |
That pencil rule only gives an intuitive idea about the meaning of continuity in the case of functions whose domain is an interval, not in the general case. For instance, the function$$begin{array}{rccc}iotacolon&mathbb{R}setminus{0}&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&frac1xend{array}$$is continuous although, of cource, the pencil rule does not apply.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
José Carlos Santos
150k22120221
add a comment |
That pencil rule only gives an intuitive idea about the meaning of continuity in the case of functions whose domain is an interval, not in the general case. For instance, the function$$begin{array}{rccc}iotacolon&mathbb{R}setminus{0}&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&frac1xend{array}$$is continuous although, of cource, the pencil rule does not apply.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
José Carlos Santos
150k22120221
add a comment |
That pencil rule only gives an intuitive idea about the meaning of continuity in the case of functions whose domain is an interval, not in the general case. For instance, the function$$begin{array}{rccc}iotacolon&mathbb{R}setminus{0}&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&frac1xend{array}$$is continuous although, of cource, the pencil rule does not apply.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
José Carlos Santos
150k22120221
That pencil rule only gives an intuitive idea about the meaning of continuity in the case of functions whose domain is an interval, not in the general case. For instance, the function$$begin{array}{rccc}iotacolon&mathbb{R}setminus{0}&longrightarrow&mathbb R\&x&mapsto&frac1xend{array}$$is continuous although, of cource, the pencil rule does not apply.
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
José Carlos Santos
150k22120221
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
José Carlos Santos
150k22120221
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
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150k22120221
answered Nov 18 at 14:58
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