Definition of limit points of a sequence
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$(a)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $N ge m$ and $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n ge N$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$.
$(b)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$. ?
Is $(a)$ equivalent to $(b)$? Obviously $(a) Rightarrow (b)$, and for the converse let $N in mathbb Z$ and let $d_0 = min{d(x^{(i)}, L), i lt N}$, then there exist $m$ such that $d(x^{(m)}, L) lt d_0/2$.
Is this reasoning correct? (feel free to edit the format or to ask for clarifications and thank you for your time)
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$(a)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $N ge m$ and $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n ge N$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$.
$(b)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$. ?
Is $(a)$ equivalent to $(b)$? Obviously $(a) Rightarrow (b)$, and for the converse let $N in mathbb Z$ and let $d_0 = min{d(x^{(i)}, L), i lt N}$, then there exist $m$ such that $d(x^{(m)}, L) lt d_0/2$.
Is this reasoning correct? (feel free to edit the format or to ask for clarifications and thank you for your time)
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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$(a)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $N ge m$ and $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n ge N$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$.
$(b)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$. ?
Is $(a)$ equivalent to $(b)$? Obviously $(a) Rightarrow (b)$, and for the converse let $N in mathbb Z$ and let $d_0 = min{d(x^{(i)}, L), i lt N}$, then there exist $m$ such that $d(x^{(m)}, L) lt d_0/2$.
Is this reasoning correct? (feel free to edit the format or to ask for clarifications and thank you for your time)
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$(a)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $N ge m$ and $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n ge N$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$.
$(b)$Suppose that ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ is a sequence of points in a metric space $(X,d)$, and let $L in X$. We say that $L$ is a limit point of ${x^{(n)}}^{(infty)}_{(n=m)}$ iff for every $epsilon gt 0$ there exists an $n$ such that $d(x^{(n)}, L) le epsilon$. ?
Is $(a)$ equivalent to $(b)$? Obviously $(a) Rightarrow (b)$, and for the converse let $N in mathbb Z$ and let $d_0 = min{d(x^{(i)}, L), i lt N}$, then there exist $m$ such that $d(x^{(m)}, L) lt d_0/2$.
Is this reasoning correct? (feel free to edit the format or to ask for clarifications and thank you for your time)
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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Suppose there is an n where x(n)=L. This would make L a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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(b) is not correct, we need infinitely many points of the sequence as close to $L$ as we like , not just one or even finitely many (otherwise $x^{(1)} = L$ would be enough to make $L$ a "(b)-limit point", e.g.) and this can only be ensured by asking for indices beyond any finite $N$. What sequences do "at infinity" (for larger and larger indices) is what matters, not incidental stuff like some finitely many values or some such.
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Suppose there is an n where x(n)=L. This would make L a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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Suppose there is an n where x(n)=L. This would make L a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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(b) is not correct, we need infinitely many points of the sequence as close to $L$ as we like , not just one or even finitely many (otherwise $x^{(1)} = L$ would be enough to make $L$ a "(b)-limit point", e.g.) and this can only be ensured by asking for indices beyond any finite $N$. What sequences do "at infinity" (for larger and larger indices) is what matters, not incidental stuff like some finitely many values or some such.
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(b) is not correct, we need infinitely many points of the sequence as close to $L$ as we like , not just one or even finitely many (otherwise $x^{(1)} = L$ would be enough to make $L$ a "(b)-limit point", e.g.) and this can only be ensured by asking for indices beyond any finite $N$. What sequences do "at infinity" (for larger and larger indices) is what matters, not incidental stuff like some finitely many values or some such.
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(b) is not correct, we need infinitely many points of the sequence as close to $L$ as we like , not just one or even finitely many (otherwise $x^{(1)} = L$ would be enough to make $L$ a "(b)-limit point", e.g.) and this can only be ensured by asking for indices beyond any finite $N$. What sequences do "at infinity" (for larger and larger indices) is what matters, not incidental stuff like some finitely many values or some such.
(b) is not correct, we need infinitely many points of the sequence as close to $L$ as we like , not just one or even finitely many (otherwise $x^{(1)} = L$ would be enough to make $L$ a "(b)-limit point", e.g.) and this can only be ensured by asking for indices beyond any finite $N$. What sequences do "at infinity" (for larger and larger indices) is what matters, not incidental stuff like some finitely many values or some such.
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Suppose there is an $n$ where $x^{(n)}=L$. This would make $L$ a limit point by (b), but not by (a)
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