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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?










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    Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
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  • $F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?










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    Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
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  • $F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?










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Suppose $B$ is a ball in $mathbb{R}^{n}$ with $n>1$, and $F$ a closed set with empty interior. Is there an increasing sequence of sets $E_{1}subset,...E_{n}subset E_{n+1},...$, all Borel sets, such that each $E_{n}subset Bsetminus F$ but $cup_{n}E_{n}=B$?







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closed as unclear what you're asking by Kavi Rama Murthy, user90369, user10354138, Shailesh, Cesareo Nov 20 '18 at 1:15


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closed as unclear what you're asking by Kavi Rama Murthy, user90369, user10354138, Shailesh, Cesareo Nov 20 '18 at 1:15


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    Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Nov 19 '18 at 5:32










  • $F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
    – M. Rahmat
    Nov 19 '18 at 6:16














  • 4




    Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
    – Lord Shark the Unknown
    Nov 19 '18 at 5:32










  • $F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
    – M. Rahmat
    Nov 19 '18 at 6:16








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Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 '18 at 5:32




Not if $Bcap F$ is nonempty. Is this actually the question you wished to ask?
– Lord Shark the Unknown
Nov 19 '18 at 5:32












$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 '18 at 6:16




$F$ is a part of $B$ and so their intersection is not empty.
– M. Rahmat
Nov 19 '18 at 6:16










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In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.



Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.






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    No.



    In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.



    Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.






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      No.



      In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.



      Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.






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        No.



        In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.



        Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.






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        No.



        In general if $A_alpha$ are subsets of a set $D$, then $bigcup_{alpha} A_alpha$ is also a subset of $D$, since any element of the union is an element of some $A_alpha$ and hence an element of $D$.



        Thus as Lord Shark the Unknown points out in the comments, if $Bcap F$ is nonempty then $Bsetminus F$ is a proper subset of $B$, so since each $E_n$ is a subset of $Bsetminus F$, we have that $bigcup_n E_n subseteq Bsetminus F subsetneq B$.







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