What is the chord containing C, D, F#?
Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).
Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.
Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.
Does it has a name?
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asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).
Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.
Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.
Does it has a name?
theory chord-theory
asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
363
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21
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Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).
Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.
Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.
Does it has a name?
theory chord-theory
asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
363
Its inversion "D F# C" appeared in the 10th measure of the Prelude in C Major(BWV 846).
Seems like a usual triad, but I just can't fit it into pattern of any triad.
Its most possible basic form of triad I could guess is "C D F#", which is diminished third + minor fifth.
Does it has a name?
theory chord-theory
theory chord-theory
asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
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asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
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asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
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asked Nov 18 '18 at 9:05
Rakanishu
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21
add a comment |
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21
I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21
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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
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Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
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It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
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Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
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Isn't all that in my answer?
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I did not read your answer.
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@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
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It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
Tim
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Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
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It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
1
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
add a comment |
It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
Tim
96k1098244
Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
9
It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
1
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
add a comment |
It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
Tim
96k1098244
It's V/V. There's a slight modulation from C, and it goes to G, the V of C. Hardly a mod., the piece needs to get back home to C. To get there, it uses the V of G, which is D7 - hence the notes D, F# and C. It's part of the cycle of fourths/fifths - Am>D7>G7>C.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
Tim
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answered Nov 18 '18 at 9:24
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Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
9
It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
1
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
add a comment |
Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
9
It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
1
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
Let's focus on D7~ So the missing A in D7 does not change its name?
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:28
9
9
It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
It could be called D7 (no5), but it's fairly common to leave out the 5 from any chord (except 'power chords'!!) because there are elements of that pitch sounding in the harmonics of the root. So, no need to change the name. That apart, Bach probably didn't think in terms of chords like we tend to now, I think.
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 9:44
1
1
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
Well... Bach did add A in the 10th measure. I forgot the first two notes (D A) of that melodic chord. But I did meet Dominant Seventh missing A in Maple Leaf Rag. So got it! it's common.
– Rakanishu
Nov 18 '18 at 9:50
add a comment |
That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
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Isn't all that in my answer?
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 12:14
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I did not read your answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 18 '18 at 12:55
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@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
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– Neil Meyer
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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
8,85222649
2
Isn't all that in my answer?
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 12:14
4
I did not read your answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 18 '18 at 12:55
2
@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:11
I would be greatly disappointed if any of my answers get deleted. I have contributed enough to this site that I do think this small little discretion can be overlooked. There is nothing wrong with the quality of this answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 19 '18 at 10:49
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That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
8,85222649
That could be the dominant seventh chord of G Major with the 5th omitted, so D F# A C but with the fifth left out, you can do that. So basically G:V7-5.
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
8,85222649
edited Nov 18 '18 at 10:47
answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
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answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
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answered Nov 18 '18 at 10:35
Neil Meyer
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Isn't all that in my answer?
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 12:14
4
I did not read your answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 18 '18 at 12:55
2
@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:11
I would be greatly disappointed if any of my answers get deleted. I have contributed enough to this site that I do think this small little discretion can be overlooked. There is nothing wrong with the quality of this answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 19 '18 at 10:49
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Isn't all that in my answer?
– Tim
Nov 18 '18 at 12:14
4
I did not read your answer.
– Neil Meyer
Nov 18 '18 at 12:55
2
@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:11
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– Neil Meyer
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Isn't all that in my answer?
– Tim
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– Neil Meyer
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I did not read your answer.
– Neil Meyer
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@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer But don't you think you should have? It's a bit redundant to have multiple answers with the same information, no?
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:06
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:11
@NeilMeyer See, e.g., music.stackexchange.com/help/deleted-answers, which says that "exact duplicates of other answers" can be removed.
– Richard
Nov 19 '18 at 6:11
I would be greatly disappointed if any of my answers get deleted. I have contributed enough to this site that I do think this small little discretion can be overlooked. There is nothing wrong with the quality of this answer.
– Neil Meyer
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I'd say D7, we typically drop the 5th of the V7 chord in harmony theory. Of course w/o context it's hard to know the function of the triad. Don't have Prelude in C in front of me.
– ggcg
Nov 19 '18 at 17:21