How can I alter the appearance of my face at will as a Warlock?
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I am trying to create a Lucifer-type player character from the TV show Lucifer where he changes his face temporarily to his true (devil) face to scare and intimidate others. I would like to be able to copy this effect at will without using a spell slot. This would be just a flash for intimidation purposes, out of combat mostly. Is there a cantrip or any other feature that can pull this off? If so, which one?
I was planning a Warlock for this: Half-elf Courtier skilled in deception and intimidation.
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I am trying to create a Lucifer-type player character from the TV show Lucifer where he changes his face temporarily to his true (devil) face to scare and intimidate others. I would like to be able to copy this effect at will without using a spell slot. This would be just a flash for intimidation purposes, out of combat mostly. Is there a cantrip or any other feature that can pull this off? If so, which one?
I was planning a Warlock for this: Half-elf Courtier skilled in deception and intimidation.
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I am trying to create a Lucifer-type player character from the TV show Lucifer where he changes his face temporarily to his true (devil) face to scare and intimidate others. I would like to be able to copy this effect at will without using a spell slot. This would be just a flash for intimidation purposes, out of combat mostly. Is there a cantrip or any other feature that can pull this off? If so, which one?
I was planning a Warlock for this: Half-elf Courtier skilled in deception and intimidation.
dnd-5e warlock illusion cantrips
I am trying to create a Lucifer-type player character from the TV show Lucifer where he changes his face temporarily to his true (devil) face to scare and intimidate others. I would like to be able to copy this effect at will without using a spell slot. This would be just a flash for intimidation purposes, out of combat mostly. Is there a cantrip or any other feature that can pull this off? If so, which one?
I was planning a Warlock for this: Half-elf Courtier skilled in deception and intimidation.
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The Thaumaturgy cantrip allows you to alter the appearance of your eyes, though not your entire face.
One of the effects of Thaumaturgy is to
alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
You can dismiss the effect with an action if 1 minute is too long for you. If that's enough, it could work. Thaumaturgy is not a Warlock cantrip, but you can gain access to it through the Pact of the Tome, the Magic Initiate feat, or by multiclassing to take a level of Cleric.
Alternatively,
The Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation could suit your needs.
You would need at least 2 levels of Warlock to get the Invocation, but with it
You can cast disguise self at will, without expending a spell slot.
Disguise Self lets you change your appearance in many ways, but you could choose to only change your face. It takes an action to cast and can last up to an hour, but you can use your action to dismiss it.
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Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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A race can
Take a look at the Changeling race (from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron, which is still technically UA content).
From the PHB:
Change Appearance
As an action, you can transform your appearance or revert to your natural form. You can’t duplicate the appearance of a creature you’ve never seen, and you revert to your natural form if you die.
You decide what you look like, including your height, weight, facial features, the sound of your voice, coloration, hair length, sex, and any other distinguishing characteristics. You can make yourself appear as a member of another race, though none of your game statistics change. You also can’t appear as a creature of a different size than you, and your basic shape stays the same; if you’re bipedal, you can’t use this trait to become quadrupedal, for instance. Your clothing and other equipment don’t change in appearance, size, or shape to match your new form, requiring you to keep a few extra outfits on hand to make the most compelling disguise possible.
Even to the most astute observers, your ruse is usually indiscernible. If you rouse suspicion, or if a wary creature suspects something is amiss, you have advantage on any Charisma (Deception) check you make to avoid detection.
Minor Illusion
If you do want a cantrip, the cantrip that comes to mind is Minor Illusion, however this takes an action to cast and another action to end the illusion, which would not exactly be "a flash".
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Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
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Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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Mask of Many Faces
This warlock invocation allows you to cast Disguise Self at will - allowing to make yourself "look different". I don't see any reason why this wouldn't extend to your lucifer-like modifications.
It does give the opportunity for the victim to make a check to see if they know what's going on, and physical inspection is a big no-no, but this is an easy way to achieve the effect you want without having to worry about spell slots.
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Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
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Arguably, Shape Water could do this
This would require you to keep some water in a color and opacity of your choice in a container on your person at all times. But then, you could cast Shape Water, which allows the following effects:
You move the water up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn't cause damage.
You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate. This change lasts for 1 hour.
I would argue that a jack-o'-lantern quality face would be scary and count as "simple shapes". You'd have a weird "mask" of moving water, which you could then dismiss by moving it again.
Note: Shape Water is a Druid cantrip that is not naturally available to Warlocks. You can get around this with either the Magic Initiate feat, taking one level of druid, or using the Pact of the Tome Warlock feature.
er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
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very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
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If magic items are OK ("any other feature"): Hat of Disguise
The Hat of Disguise is an uncommon item that requires attunement. Whether or not one drops or is available to you is in the DM's hands. It does this for you:
While wearing this hat, you can use an action to cast the disguise self spell from it at will. The spell ends if the hat is removed. (Hat of Disguise; SRD p. 225)
The disguise self spell meets your needs, and (with the item) will be castable at will like a cantrip (extracts from SRD p. 135):
Duration: 1 hour {more than you need}
You make yourself look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it...the extent of the illusion is up to you. {snip} To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
In the amount of time you are looking to apply the disguise, that Int check is likely moot.
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At higher levels, use Warlock Invocation Master of Myriad forms
That invocation let's you cast Alter Self at will. While it requires level 15, that is, quite a lot, it's not a disguise, you literally take on the shape you wish.
Recommendation: try talking to DM into allowing the use of this invocation at level 5-7, since the spell is only 2nd level and doesn't really give any combat advantages (you can negotiate locking out the Natural Weapons part of it until intended at lvl 15).
As another option, if you're only interested in roleplaying the intimidation, and not interested in getting a mechanical boon on top of it, I would look into trinkets.
Any character is allowed a free trinket, and Curse of Strahd provides Gothic Trinkets table that contains some quite magical items. If
a little black book that records your dreams, and yours alone, when you sleep
can be a trinket (and an actually useful thing, in case of prophetic dreams), then I don't see why "A ring, that makes your visage horrific for a second when you press the stone in it" can't be an option.
Unfortunately PHB doesn't really mention "you can think up your own trinket", so some will argue that it's illegal, but really, nothing is illegal if DM allows it. Work with your DM on this.
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Using thaumaturgy, and potentially minor illusion
With the thaumaturgy spell, there is a RAW way to accomplish at least part of what you want:
You manifest a minor wonder, a sign of supernatural power, within range. You create one of the following magical effects within range: [...]
- You alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
Depending on how your DM will handle illusions, minor illusion may also be a solution if you are willing to stand REALLY still (the illusion can't move) with the illusion just barely in front of your face.
There is also a related topic on this site (Can you create an illusion of empty space?) about not being able to use minor illusion to "delete" sections of objects as part of the illusion, or create empty space. This may apply somewhat if you were trying to morph your face in such a way that you would want to shrink parts or make parts disappear.
The minor illusion spell description says:
You create a sound or an image of an object within range that lasts
for the duration. The illusion also ends if you dismiss it as an
action or cast this spell again.
[...]
If you create an image of an object - such as a chair, muddy
footprints, or a small chest - it must be no larger than a 5-foot
cube. The image can't create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory
effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an
illusion, because things can pass through it.
If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the
creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful
Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a
creature discerns the Illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes
faint to the creature.
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Personally, I would just flavor this. Whenever you make a Charisma (Intimidation) check, just describe that your face changes appearance momentarily. As a DM, I wouldn't make you actually go and expend build resources for something that won't have an actual mechanical effect.
(On the other hand, if you're expecting a mechanical effect, spells, effects and cantrips do what they say they do, so you're kind of stuck.)
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
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The Thaumaturgy cantrip allows you to alter the appearance of your eyes, though not your entire face.
One of the effects of Thaumaturgy is to
alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
You can dismiss the effect with an action if 1 minute is too long for you. If that's enough, it could work. Thaumaturgy is not a Warlock cantrip, but you can gain access to it through the Pact of the Tome, the Magic Initiate feat, or by multiclassing to take a level of Cleric.
Alternatively,
The Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation could suit your needs.
You would need at least 2 levels of Warlock to get the Invocation, but with it
You can cast disguise self at will, without expending a spell slot.
Disguise Self lets you change your appearance in many ways, but you could choose to only change your face. It takes an action to cast and can last up to an hour, but you can use your action to dismiss it.
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Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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The Thaumaturgy cantrip allows you to alter the appearance of your eyes, though not your entire face.
One of the effects of Thaumaturgy is to
alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
You can dismiss the effect with an action if 1 minute is too long for you. If that's enough, it could work. Thaumaturgy is not a Warlock cantrip, but you can gain access to it through the Pact of the Tome, the Magic Initiate feat, or by multiclassing to take a level of Cleric.
Alternatively,
The Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation could suit your needs.
You would need at least 2 levels of Warlock to get the Invocation, but with it
You can cast disguise self at will, without expending a spell slot.
Disguise Self lets you change your appearance in many ways, but you could choose to only change your face. It takes an action to cast and can last up to an hour, but you can use your action to dismiss it.
1
Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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The Thaumaturgy cantrip allows you to alter the appearance of your eyes, though not your entire face.
One of the effects of Thaumaturgy is to
alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
You can dismiss the effect with an action if 1 minute is too long for you. If that's enough, it could work. Thaumaturgy is not a Warlock cantrip, but you can gain access to it through the Pact of the Tome, the Magic Initiate feat, or by multiclassing to take a level of Cleric.
Alternatively,
The Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation could suit your needs.
You would need at least 2 levels of Warlock to get the Invocation, but with it
You can cast disguise self at will, without expending a spell slot.
Disguise Self lets you change your appearance in many ways, but you could choose to only change your face. It takes an action to cast and can last up to an hour, but you can use your action to dismiss it.
The Thaumaturgy cantrip allows you to alter the appearance of your eyes, though not your entire face.
One of the effects of Thaumaturgy is to
alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
You can dismiss the effect with an action if 1 minute is too long for you. If that's enough, it could work. Thaumaturgy is not a Warlock cantrip, but you can gain access to it through the Pact of the Tome, the Magic Initiate feat, or by multiclassing to take a level of Cleric.
Alternatively,
The Mask of Many Faces Eldritch Invocation could suit your needs.
You would need at least 2 levels of Warlock to get the Invocation, but with it
You can cast disguise self at will, without expending a spell slot.
Disguise Self lets you change your appearance in many ways, but you could choose to only change your face. It takes an action to cast and can last up to an hour, but you can use your action to dismiss it.
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Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
Is there a specific reason for this order? The Mask of Many Faces seems much better easier to get, being a pure Warlock thing.
– Erik
Nov 30 at 9:58
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
@Erik Maybe the level restriction. You get access to Thaumaturgy before Mask of Many Faces
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 10:48
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@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@BlueMoon93 but it's not a Warlock cantrip, so you can't get it before level 2 (since you need to multiclass, spend a feat, or sign your Pact, all of which are higher level options)
– Erik
Nov 30 at 10:49
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
@Erik Oh, I had no idea. I stand corrected
– BlueMoon93
Nov 30 at 11:00
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@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
@Erik The original question asked specifically for a face-altering cantrip and didn't specify the class. It's been edited since.
– user48255
2 days ago
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A race can
Take a look at the Changeling race (from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron, which is still technically UA content).
From the PHB:
Change Appearance
As an action, you can transform your appearance or revert to your natural form. You can’t duplicate the appearance of a creature you’ve never seen, and you revert to your natural form if you die.
You decide what you look like, including your height, weight, facial features, the sound of your voice, coloration, hair length, sex, and any other distinguishing characteristics. You can make yourself appear as a member of another race, though none of your game statistics change. You also can’t appear as a creature of a different size than you, and your basic shape stays the same; if you’re bipedal, you can’t use this trait to become quadrupedal, for instance. Your clothing and other equipment don’t change in appearance, size, or shape to match your new form, requiring you to keep a few extra outfits on hand to make the most compelling disguise possible.
Even to the most astute observers, your ruse is usually indiscernible. If you rouse suspicion, or if a wary creature suspects something is amiss, you have advantage on any Charisma (Deception) check you make to avoid detection.
Minor Illusion
If you do want a cantrip, the cantrip that comes to mind is Minor Illusion, however this takes an action to cast and another action to end the illusion, which would not exactly be "a flash".
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Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
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Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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A race can
Take a look at the Changeling race (from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron, which is still technically UA content).
From the PHB:
Change Appearance
As an action, you can transform your appearance or revert to your natural form. You can’t duplicate the appearance of a creature you’ve never seen, and you revert to your natural form if you die.
You decide what you look like, including your height, weight, facial features, the sound of your voice, coloration, hair length, sex, and any other distinguishing characteristics. You can make yourself appear as a member of another race, though none of your game statistics change. You also can’t appear as a creature of a different size than you, and your basic shape stays the same; if you’re bipedal, you can’t use this trait to become quadrupedal, for instance. Your clothing and other equipment don’t change in appearance, size, or shape to match your new form, requiring you to keep a few extra outfits on hand to make the most compelling disguise possible.
Even to the most astute observers, your ruse is usually indiscernible. If you rouse suspicion, or if a wary creature suspects something is amiss, you have advantage on any Charisma (Deception) check you make to avoid detection.
Minor Illusion
If you do want a cantrip, the cantrip that comes to mind is Minor Illusion, however this takes an action to cast and another action to end the illusion, which would not exactly be "a flash".
New contributor
Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
5
Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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A race can
Take a look at the Changeling race (from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron, which is still technically UA content).
From the PHB:
Change Appearance
As an action, you can transform your appearance or revert to your natural form. You can’t duplicate the appearance of a creature you’ve never seen, and you revert to your natural form if you die.
You decide what you look like, including your height, weight, facial features, the sound of your voice, coloration, hair length, sex, and any other distinguishing characteristics. You can make yourself appear as a member of another race, though none of your game statistics change. You also can’t appear as a creature of a different size than you, and your basic shape stays the same; if you’re bipedal, you can’t use this trait to become quadrupedal, for instance. Your clothing and other equipment don’t change in appearance, size, or shape to match your new form, requiring you to keep a few extra outfits on hand to make the most compelling disguise possible.
Even to the most astute observers, your ruse is usually indiscernible. If you rouse suspicion, or if a wary creature suspects something is amiss, you have advantage on any Charisma (Deception) check you make to avoid detection.
Minor Illusion
If you do want a cantrip, the cantrip that comes to mind is Minor Illusion, however this takes an action to cast and another action to end the illusion, which would not exactly be "a flash".
New contributor
A race can
Take a look at the Changeling race (from Wayfinder's Guide to Eberron, which is still technically UA content).
From the PHB:
Change Appearance
As an action, you can transform your appearance or revert to your natural form. You can’t duplicate the appearance of a creature you’ve never seen, and you revert to your natural form if you die.
You decide what you look like, including your height, weight, facial features, the sound of your voice, coloration, hair length, sex, and any other distinguishing characteristics. You can make yourself appear as a member of another race, though none of your game statistics change. You also can’t appear as a creature of a different size than you, and your basic shape stays the same; if you’re bipedal, you can’t use this trait to become quadrupedal, for instance. Your clothing and other equipment don’t change in appearance, size, or shape to match your new form, requiring you to keep a few extra outfits on hand to make the most compelling disguise possible.
Even to the most astute observers, your ruse is usually indiscernible. If you rouse suspicion, or if a wary creature suspects something is amiss, you have advantage on any Charisma (Deception) check you make to avoid detection.
Minor Illusion
If you do want a cantrip, the cantrip that comes to mind is Minor Illusion, however this takes an action to cast and another action to end the illusion, which would not exactly be "a flash".
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Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
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Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
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Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
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Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
Could Minor Illusion actually change the appearance of a face?
– Eternallord66
Nov 29 at 15:58
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
@Eternallord66 Sort of. Minor Illusion can create the appearance of objects. While a face is not an object, you could create a mask for about 6 seconds, hovering just in front of your face. With judicious use of the Ready action (holding the casting of it, and casting it right before your turn), you could possibly create a frightful mask for just a moment. But such a mask could not move.
– Gandalfmeansme
Nov 29 at 16:02
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That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
That minor illusion "mask" would be more like a mask purchased at a halloween store in that as long as you didn't move, it would look like a mask. It's a static illusion.
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 16:24
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Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
Also worth noting that Changelings are Eberron content and may not be used/allowed potentially in certain other campaign settings. It is also technically UA content which is worth noting (though it is really confusing right now how WotC is treating WGE content).
– Rubiksmoose
Nov 29 at 17:47
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
2 days ago
@Rubiksmoose: Technically it's not UA content, but it is "a living document" and so essentially similar in function.
– V2Blast
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Mask of Many Faces
This warlock invocation allows you to cast Disguise Self at will - allowing to make yourself "look different". I don't see any reason why this wouldn't extend to your lucifer-like modifications.
It does give the opportunity for the victim to make a check to see if they know what's going on, and physical inspection is a big no-no, but this is an easy way to achieve the effect you want without having to worry about spell slots.
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Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
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Mask of Many Faces
This warlock invocation allows you to cast Disguise Self at will - allowing to make yourself "look different". I don't see any reason why this wouldn't extend to your lucifer-like modifications.
It does give the opportunity for the victim to make a check to see if they know what's going on, and physical inspection is a big no-no, but this is an easy way to achieve the effect you want without having to worry about spell slots.
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Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
2 days ago
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
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Mask of Many Faces
This warlock invocation allows you to cast Disguise Self at will - allowing to make yourself "look different". I don't see any reason why this wouldn't extend to your lucifer-like modifications.
It does give the opportunity for the victim to make a check to see if they know what's going on, and physical inspection is a big no-no, but this is an easy way to achieve the effect you want without having to worry about spell slots.
Mask of Many Faces
This warlock invocation allows you to cast Disguise Self at will - allowing to make yourself "look different". I don't see any reason why this wouldn't extend to your lucifer-like modifications.
It does give the opportunity for the victim to make a check to see if they know what's going on, and physical inspection is a big no-no, but this is an easy way to achieve the effect you want without having to worry about spell slots.
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Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
2 days ago
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
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1
Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
2 days ago
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
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1
Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
2 days ago
Alternatively, the devil face could be the real one, and the normal one the disguise. That makes things work quite a bit differently. (The character could even be a Tiefling and have a genuine devil-face)
– Erik
2 days ago
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This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
This is the same effect as the hat of disguise magic item. It might we worth noting that procuring such a hat would work as well.
– Grosscol
2 days ago
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Arguably, Shape Water could do this
This would require you to keep some water in a color and opacity of your choice in a container on your person at all times. But then, you could cast Shape Water, which allows the following effects:
You move the water up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn't cause damage.
You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate. This change lasts for 1 hour.
I would argue that a jack-o'-lantern quality face would be scary and count as "simple shapes". You'd have a weird "mask" of moving water, which you could then dismiss by moving it again.
Note: Shape Water is a Druid cantrip that is not naturally available to Warlocks. You can get around this with either the Magic Initiate feat, taking one level of druid, or using the Pact of the Tome Warlock feature.
er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
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very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
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Arguably, Shape Water could do this
This would require you to keep some water in a color and opacity of your choice in a container on your person at all times. But then, you could cast Shape Water, which allows the following effects:
You move the water up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn't cause damage.
You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate. This change lasts for 1 hour.
I would argue that a jack-o'-lantern quality face would be scary and count as "simple shapes". You'd have a weird "mask" of moving water, which you could then dismiss by moving it again.
Note: Shape Water is a Druid cantrip that is not naturally available to Warlocks. You can get around this with either the Magic Initiate feat, taking one level of druid, or using the Pact of the Tome Warlock feature.
er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
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very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
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Arguably, Shape Water could do this
This would require you to keep some water in a color and opacity of your choice in a container on your person at all times. But then, you could cast Shape Water, which allows the following effects:
You move the water up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn't cause damage.
You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate. This change lasts for 1 hour.
I would argue that a jack-o'-lantern quality face would be scary and count as "simple shapes". You'd have a weird "mask" of moving water, which you could then dismiss by moving it again.
Note: Shape Water is a Druid cantrip that is not naturally available to Warlocks. You can get around this with either the Magic Initiate feat, taking one level of druid, or using the Pact of the Tome Warlock feature.
Arguably, Shape Water could do this
This would require you to keep some water in a color and opacity of your choice in a container on your person at all times. But then, you could cast Shape Water, which allows the following effects:
You move the water up to 5 feet in any direction. This movement doesn't cause damage.
You cause the water to form into simple shapes and animate. This change lasts for 1 hour.
I would argue that a jack-o'-lantern quality face would be scary and count as "simple shapes". You'd have a weird "mask" of moving water, which you could then dismiss by moving it again.
Note: Shape Water is a Druid cantrip that is not naturally available to Warlocks. You can get around this with either the Magic Initiate feat, taking one level of druid, or using the Pact of the Tome Warlock feature.
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er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
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very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
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er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
1
very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
– goodguy5
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er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
er...would this induce drowning?
– NautArch
Nov 29 at 17:57
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
@NautArch not for six seconds. and you could have it not cover your nose, I'm sure.
– goodguy5
Nov 29 at 18:00
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1
very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
very creative way around this issue
– Reed
Nov 29 at 21:25
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree: The easiest way would be to pick Pact of the Tome at 3rd level: "When you gain this feature, choose three cantrips from any class’s spell list (the three needn’t be from the same list)."
– V2Blast
Nov 29 at 23:12
@8bittree updated. thanks
– goodguy5
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@8bittree updated. thanks
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If magic items are OK ("any other feature"): Hat of Disguise
The Hat of Disguise is an uncommon item that requires attunement. Whether or not one drops or is available to you is in the DM's hands. It does this for you:
While wearing this hat, you can use an action to cast the disguise self spell from it at will. The spell ends if the hat is removed. (Hat of Disguise; SRD p. 225)
The disguise self spell meets your needs, and (with the item) will be castable at will like a cantrip (extracts from SRD p. 135):
Duration: 1 hour {more than you need}
You make yourself look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it...the extent of the illusion is up to you. {snip} To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
In the amount of time you are looking to apply the disguise, that Int check is likely moot.
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If magic items are OK ("any other feature"): Hat of Disguise
The Hat of Disguise is an uncommon item that requires attunement. Whether or not one drops or is available to you is in the DM's hands. It does this for you:
While wearing this hat, you can use an action to cast the disguise self spell from it at will. The spell ends if the hat is removed. (Hat of Disguise; SRD p. 225)
The disguise self spell meets your needs, and (with the item) will be castable at will like a cantrip (extracts from SRD p. 135):
Duration: 1 hour {more than you need}
You make yourself look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it...the extent of the illusion is up to you. {snip} To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
In the amount of time you are looking to apply the disguise, that Int check is likely moot.
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If magic items are OK ("any other feature"): Hat of Disguise
The Hat of Disguise is an uncommon item that requires attunement. Whether or not one drops or is available to you is in the DM's hands. It does this for you:
While wearing this hat, you can use an action to cast the disguise self spell from it at will. The spell ends if the hat is removed. (Hat of Disguise; SRD p. 225)
The disguise self spell meets your needs, and (with the item) will be castable at will like a cantrip (extracts from SRD p. 135):
Duration: 1 hour {more than you need}
You make yourself look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it...the extent of the illusion is up to you. {snip} To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
In the amount of time you are looking to apply the disguise, that Int check is likely moot.
If magic items are OK ("any other feature"): Hat of Disguise
The Hat of Disguise is an uncommon item that requires attunement. Whether or not one drops or is available to you is in the DM's hands. It does this for you:
While wearing this hat, you can use an action to cast the disguise self spell from it at will. The spell ends if the hat is removed. (Hat of Disguise; SRD p. 225)
The disguise self spell meets your needs, and (with the item) will be castable at will like a cantrip (extracts from SRD p. 135):
Duration: 1 hour {more than you need}
You make yourself look different until the spell ends or until you use your action to dismiss it...the extent of the illusion is up to you. {snip} To discern that you are disguised, a creature can use its action to inspect your appearance and must succeed on an Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC.
In the amount of time you are looking to apply the disguise, that Int check is likely moot.
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At higher levels, use Warlock Invocation Master of Myriad forms
That invocation let's you cast Alter Self at will. While it requires level 15, that is, quite a lot, it's not a disguise, you literally take on the shape you wish.
Recommendation: try talking to DM into allowing the use of this invocation at level 5-7, since the spell is only 2nd level and doesn't really give any combat advantages (you can negotiate locking out the Natural Weapons part of it until intended at lvl 15).
As another option, if you're only interested in roleplaying the intimidation, and not interested in getting a mechanical boon on top of it, I would look into trinkets.
Any character is allowed a free trinket, and Curse of Strahd provides Gothic Trinkets table that contains some quite magical items. If
a little black book that records your dreams, and yours alone, when you sleep
can be a trinket (and an actually useful thing, in case of prophetic dreams), then I don't see why "A ring, that makes your visage horrific for a second when you press the stone in it" can't be an option.
Unfortunately PHB doesn't really mention "you can think up your own trinket", so some will argue that it's illegal, but really, nothing is illegal if DM allows it. Work with your DM on this.
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At higher levels, use Warlock Invocation Master of Myriad forms
That invocation let's you cast Alter Self at will. While it requires level 15, that is, quite a lot, it's not a disguise, you literally take on the shape you wish.
Recommendation: try talking to DM into allowing the use of this invocation at level 5-7, since the spell is only 2nd level and doesn't really give any combat advantages (you can negotiate locking out the Natural Weapons part of it until intended at lvl 15).
As another option, if you're only interested in roleplaying the intimidation, and not interested in getting a mechanical boon on top of it, I would look into trinkets.
Any character is allowed a free trinket, and Curse of Strahd provides Gothic Trinkets table that contains some quite magical items. If
a little black book that records your dreams, and yours alone, when you sleep
can be a trinket (and an actually useful thing, in case of prophetic dreams), then I don't see why "A ring, that makes your visage horrific for a second when you press the stone in it" can't be an option.
Unfortunately PHB doesn't really mention "you can think up your own trinket", so some will argue that it's illegal, but really, nothing is illegal if DM allows it. Work with your DM on this.
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At higher levels, use Warlock Invocation Master of Myriad forms
That invocation let's you cast Alter Self at will. While it requires level 15, that is, quite a lot, it's not a disguise, you literally take on the shape you wish.
Recommendation: try talking to DM into allowing the use of this invocation at level 5-7, since the spell is only 2nd level and doesn't really give any combat advantages (you can negotiate locking out the Natural Weapons part of it until intended at lvl 15).
As another option, if you're only interested in roleplaying the intimidation, and not interested in getting a mechanical boon on top of it, I would look into trinkets.
Any character is allowed a free trinket, and Curse of Strahd provides Gothic Trinkets table that contains some quite magical items. If
a little black book that records your dreams, and yours alone, when you sleep
can be a trinket (and an actually useful thing, in case of prophetic dreams), then I don't see why "A ring, that makes your visage horrific for a second when you press the stone in it" can't be an option.
Unfortunately PHB doesn't really mention "you can think up your own trinket", so some will argue that it's illegal, but really, nothing is illegal if DM allows it. Work with your DM on this.
At higher levels, use Warlock Invocation Master of Myriad forms
That invocation let's you cast Alter Self at will. While it requires level 15, that is, quite a lot, it's not a disguise, you literally take on the shape you wish.
Recommendation: try talking to DM into allowing the use of this invocation at level 5-7, since the spell is only 2nd level and doesn't really give any combat advantages (you can negotiate locking out the Natural Weapons part of it until intended at lvl 15).
As another option, if you're only interested in roleplaying the intimidation, and not interested in getting a mechanical boon on top of it, I would look into trinkets.
Any character is allowed a free trinket, and Curse of Strahd provides Gothic Trinkets table that contains some quite magical items. If
a little black book that records your dreams, and yours alone, when you sleep
can be a trinket (and an actually useful thing, in case of prophetic dreams), then I don't see why "A ring, that makes your visage horrific for a second when you press the stone in it" can't be an option.
Unfortunately PHB doesn't really mention "you can think up your own trinket", so some will argue that it's illegal, but really, nothing is illegal if DM allows it. Work with your DM on this.
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Using thaumaturgy, and potentially minor illusion
With the thaumaturgy spell, there is a RAW way to accomplish at least part of what you want:
You manifest a minor wonder, a sign of supernatural power, within range. You create one of the following magical effects within range: [...]
- You alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
Depending on how your DM will handle illusions, minor illusion may also be a solution if you are willing to stand REALLY still (the illusion can't move) with the illusion just barely in front of your face.
There is also a related topic on this site (Can you create an illusion of empty space?) about not being able to use minor illusion to "delete" sections of objects as part of the illusion, or create empty space. This may apply somewhat if you were trying to morph your face in such a way that you would want to shrink parts or make parts disappear.
The minor illusion spell description says:
You create a sound or an image of an object within range that lasts
for the duration. The illusion also ends if you dismiss it as an
action or cast this spell again.
[...]
If you create an image of an object - such as a chair, muddy
footprints, or a small chest - it must be no larger than a 5-foot
cube. The image can't create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory
effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an
illusion, because things can pass through it.
If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the
creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful
Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a
creature discerns the Illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes
faint to the creature.
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Using thaumaturgy, and potentially minor illusion
With the thaumaturgy spell, there is a RAW way to accomplish at least part of what you want:
You manifest a minor wonder, a sign of supernatural power, within range. You create one of the following magical effects within range: [...]
- You alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
Depending on how your DM will handle illusions, minor illusion may also be a solution if you are willing to stand REALLY still (the illusion can't move) with the illusion just barely in front of your face.
There is also a related topic on this site (Can you create an illusion of empty space?) about not being able to use minor illusion to "delete" sections of objects as part of the illusion, or create empty space. This may apply somewhat if you were trying to morph your face in such a way that you would want to shrink parts or make parts disappear.
The minor illusion spell description says:
You create a sound or an image of an object within range that lasts
for the duration. The illusion also ends if you dismiss it as an
action or cast this spell again.
[...]
If you create an image of an object - such as a chair, muddy
footprints, or a small chest - it must be no larger than a 5-foot
cube. The image can't create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory
effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an
illusion, because things can pass through it.
If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the
creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful
Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a
creature discerns the Illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes
faint to the creature.
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Using thaumaturgy, and potentially minor illusion
With the thaumaturgy spell, there is a RAW way to accomplish at least part of what you want:
You manifest a minor wonder, a sign of supernatural power, within range. You create one of the following magical effects within range: [...]
- You alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
Depending on how your DM will handle illusions, minor illusion may also be a solution if you are willing to stand REALLY still (the illusion can't move) with the illusion just barely in front of your face.
There is also a related topic on this site (Can you create an illusion of empty space?) about not being able to use minor illusion to "delete" sections of objects as part of the illusion, or create empty space. This may apply somewhat if you were trying to morph your face in such a way that you would want to shrink parts or make parts disappear.
The minor illusion spell description says:
You create a sound or an image of an object within range that lasts
for the duration. The illusion also ends if you dismiss it as an
action or cast this spell again.
[...]
If you create an image of an object - such as a chair, muddy
footprints, or a small chest - it must be no larger than a 5-foot
cube. The image can't create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory
effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an
illusion, because things can pass through it.
If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the
creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful
Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a
creature discerns the Illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes
faint to the creature.
Using thaumaturgy, and potentially minor illusion
With the thaumaturgy spell, there is a RAW way to accomplish at least part of what you want:
You manifest a minor wonder, a sign of supernatural power, within range. You create one of the following magical effects within range: [...]
- You alter the appearance of your eyes for 1 minute.
Depending on how your DM will handle illusions, minor illusion may also be a solution if you are willing to stand REALLY still (the illusion can't move) with the illusion just barely in front of your face.
There is also a related topic on this site (Can you create an illusion of empty space?) about not being able to use minor illusion to "delete" sections of objects as part of the illusion, or create empty space. This may apply somewhat if you were trying to morph your face in such a way that you would want to shrink parts or make parts disappear.
The minor illusion spell description says:
You create a sound or an image of an object within range that lasts
for the duration. The illusion also ends if you dismiss it as an
action or cast this spell again.
[...]
If you create an image of an object - such as a chair, muddy
footprints, or a small chest - it must be no larger than a 5-foot
cube. The image can't create sound, light, smell, or any other sensory
effect. Physical interaction with the image reveals it to be an
illusion, because things can pass through it.
If a creature uses its action to examine the sound or image, the
creature can determine that it is an illusion with a successful
Intelligence (Investigation) check against your spell save DC. If a
creature discerns the Illusion for what it is, the illusion becomes
faint to the creature.
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Personally, I would just flavor this. Whenever you make a Charisma (Intimidation) check, just describe that your face changes appearance momentarily. As a DM, I wouldn't make you actually go and expend build resources for something that won't have an actual mechanical effect.
(On the other hand, if you're expecting a mechanical effect, spells, effects and cantrips do what they say they do, so you're kind of stuck.)
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
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Personally, I would just flavor this. Whenever you make a Charisma (Intimidation) check, just describe that your face changes appearance momentarily. As a DM, I wouldn't make you actually go and expend build resources for something that won't have an actual mechanical effect.
(On the other hand, if you're expecting a mechanical effect, spells, effects and cantrips do what they say they do, so you're kind of stuck.)
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
– trlkly
8 hours ago
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up vote
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Personally, I would just flavor this. Whenever you make a Charisma (Intimidation) check, just describe that your face changes appearance momentarily. As a DM, I wouldn't make you actually go and expend build resources for something that won't have an actual mechanical effect.
(On the other hand, if you're expecting a mechanical effect, spells, effects and cantrips do what they say they do, so you're kind of stuck.)
Personally, I would just flavor this. Whenever you make a Charisma (Intimidation) check, just describe that your face changes appearance momentarily. As a DM, I wouldn't make you actually go and expend build resources for something that won't have an actual mechanical effect.
(On the other hand, if you're expecting a mechanical effect, spells, effects and cantrips do what they say they do, so you're kind of stuck.)
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
– trlkly
8 hours ago
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
– trlkly
8 hours ago
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This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
– trlkly
8 hours ago
This is what I came to suggest. And, while you can't get a mechanical advantage, you can build your character around this idea, giving yourself higher Charisma.
– trlkly
8 hours ago
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