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I am employed by the traffic police and we are supposed to implement traffic rules. One day I found a man on a motorbike violating the rules. He was not wearing a helmet. I stopped him and asked for his driver's licence and found that he was driving without a licence.
He was a worker and his monthly income is I guess 12000-15000rs. That is even less than rent for a student living in hostel, but that man has a family too and he works to provide his family food. According to the rules he must pay a fine of 2000rs from his salary of 12000rs. It looks impossible to manage on only 10000rs for a whole month, so I gave him a final warning and let him go.
I want to know what I should do in that case afterwards and whether the decision I took at that time was right or not.
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I am employed by the traffic police and we are supposed to implement traffic rules. One day I found a man on a motorbike violating the rules. He was not wearing a helmet. I stopped him and asked for his driver's licence and found that he was driving without a licence.
He was a worker and his monthly income is I guess 12000-15000rs. That is even less than rent for a student living in hostel, but that man has a family too and he works to provide his family food. According to the rules he must pay a fine of 2000rs from his salary of 12000rs. It looks impossible to manage on only 10000rs for a whole month, so I gave him a final warning and let him go.
I want to know what I should do in that case afterwards and whether the decision I took at that time was right or not.
professionalism salary law
edited Nov 29 at 18:15
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asked Nov 29 at 18:01
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Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
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And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27
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I am employed by the traffic police and we are supposed to implement traffic rules. One day I found a man on a motorbike violating the rules. He was not wearing a helmet. I stopped him and asked for his driver's licence and found that he was driving without a licence.
He was a worker and his monthly income is I guess 12000-15000rs. That is even less than rent for a student living in hostel, but that man has a family too and he works to provide his family food. According to the rules he must pay a fine of 2000rs from his salary of 12000rs. It looks impossible to manage on only 10000rs for a whole month, so I gave him a final warning and let him go.
I want to know what I should do in that case afterwards and whether the decision I took at that time was right or not.
professionalism salary law
edited Nov 29 at 18:15
David K
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asked Nov 29 at 18:01
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I am employed by the traffic police and we are supposed to implement traffic rules. One day I found a man on a motorbike violating the rules. He was not wearing a helmet. I stopped him and asked for his driver's licence and found that he was driving without a licence.
He was a worker and his monthly income is I guess 12000-15000rs. That is even less than rent for a student living in hostel, but that man has a family too and he works to provide his family food. According to the rules he must pay a fine of 2000rs from his salary of 12000rs. It looks impossible to manage on only 10000rs for a whole month, so I gave him a final warning and let him go.
I want to know what I should do in that case afterwards and whether the decision I took at that time was right or not.
professionalism salary law
professionalism salary law
edited Nov 29 at 18:15
David K
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asked Nov 29 at 18:01
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edited Nov 29 at 18:15
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edited Nov 29 at 18:15
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edited Nov 29 at 18:15
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edited Nov 29 at 18:15
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put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Philip Kendall, David K, IDrinkandIKnowThings, gnat, solarflare Nov 29 at 23:10
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put on hold as primarily opinion-based by Philip Kendall, David K, IDrinkandIKnowThings, gnat, solarflare Nov 29 at 23:10
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Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
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And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27
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Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
1
And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27
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Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
1
1
And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27
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You're paid to do your job. Doing your job is expected to stop people from doing things outside the law, for numerous reasons (one is to prevent people from getting hurt). If the law establishes that vehicle's drivers need to have a driver's license, you have to enforce that by the role you play in implementing traffic rules. The driver's license certifies that the person is fit to drive a vehicle; not having it implies it (he/she) is not fit, officially, to drive.
The law applies to everyone, rich and poor. Otherwise, it's unfair. Even if you take into account that you think he earns less than a student living in a hostel, you have no way to verify that unless the driver has documentation to back it put; anyways, it'd not be fair to the people actually behaving by law.
Having said that, if the law contemplates giving warnings, it should be OK. But I'd use it exceptionally, given that traffic laws are implemented to prevent harm usually (Thanks to @Lumberjack for questioning in comments)
answered Nov 29 at 18:09
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
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Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
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You're paid to do your job. Doing your job is expected to stop people from doing things outside the law, for numerous reasons (one is to prevent people from getting hurt). If the law establishes that vehicle's drivers need to have a driver's license, you have to enforce that by the role you play in implementing traffic rules. The driver's license certifies that the person is fit to drive a vehicle; not having it implies it (he/she) is not fit, officially, to drive.
The law applies to everyone, rich and poor. Otherwise, it's unfair. Even if you take into account that you think he earns less than a student living in a hostel, you have no way to verify that unless the driver has documentation to back it put; anyways, it'd not be fair to the people actually behaving by law.
Having said that, if the law contemplates giving warnings, it should be OK. But I'd use it exceptionally, given that traffic laws are implemented to prevent harm usually (Thanks to @Lumberjack for questioning in comments)
answered Nov 29 at 18:09
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
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Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
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You're paid to do your job. Doing your job is expected to stop people from doing things outside the law, for numerous reasons (one is to prevent people from getting hurt). If the law establishes that vehicle's drivers need to have a driver's license, you have to enforce that by the role you play in implementing traffic rules. The driver's license certifies that the person is fit to drive a vehicle; not having it implies it (he/she) is not fit, officially, to drive.
The law applies to everyone, rich and poor. Otherwise, it's unfair. Even if you take into account that you think he earns less than a student living in a hostel, you have no way to verify that unless the driver has documentation to back it put; anyways, it'd not be fair to the people actually behaving by law.
Having said that, if the law contemplates giving warnings, it should be OK. But I'd use it exceptionally, given that traffic laws are implemented to prevent harm usually (Thanks to @Lumberjack for questioning in comments)
answered Nov 29 at 18:09
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
1
Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
add a comment |
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up vote
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You're paid to do your job. Doing your job is expected to stop people from doing things outside the law, for numerous reasons (one is to prevent people from getting hurt). If the law establishes that vehicle's drivers need to have a driver's license, you have to enforce that by the role you play in implementing traffic rules. The driver's license certifies that the person is fit to drive a vehicle; not having it implies it (he/she) is not fit, officially, to drive.
The law applies to everyone, rich and poor. Otherwise, it's unfair. Even if you take into account that you think he earns less than a student living in a hostel, you have no way to verify that unless the driver has documentation to back it put; anyways, it'd not be fair to the people actually behaving by law.
Having said that, if the law contemplates giving warnings, it should be OK. But I'd use it exceptionally, given that traffic laws are implemented to prevent harm usually (Thanks to @Lumberjack for questioning in comments)
answered Nov 29 at 18:09
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You're paid to do your job. Doing your job is expected to stop people from doing things outside the law, for numerous reasons (one is to prevent people from getting hurt). If the law establishes that vehicle's drivers need to have a driver's license, you have to enforce that by the role you play in implementing traffic rules. The driver's license certifies that the person is fit to drive a vehicle; not having it implies it (he/she) is not fit, officially, to drive.
The law applies to everyone, rich and poor. Otherwise, it's unfair. Even if you take into account that you think he earns less than a student living in a hostel, you have no way to verify that unless the driver has documentation to back it put; anyways, it'd not be fair to the people actually behaving by law.
Having said that, if the law contemplates giving warnings, it should be OK. But I'd use it exceptionally, given that traffic laws are implemented to prevent harm usually (Thanks to @Lumberjack for questioning in comments)
answered Nov 29 at 18:09
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
1
Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
add a comment |
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
1
Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
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Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
Is it against the rules to give a warning in OP's jurisdiction?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:14
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
It's a good question i didn't ask myself. I guess i tried to answer in a general perspective... although i didn't specifically said it was against the rules, i now see it could be misleading. I'm going to edit the answer to be more clear.
– Iván Luetich
Nov 29 at 18:19
1
1
Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
Many countries allow the officer to use their discretion when addressing a person who has violated the rules of the road, depending in the severity of the violation.
– The White Wolf
Nov 29 at 19:34
add a comment |
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Not sure how being a cop over where you're from works. But over here here in US police hands warnings all the time if they do not feel like giving a ticket
– Victor S
Nov 29 at 18:05
i am employ in pakistan and and we are told to strictly implement rules.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:08
You offer up a dichotomy. Rules vs Sympathy. Do the rules say that you cannot give a warning?
– Lumberjack
Nov 29 at 18:13
1
And then because he was violating the rules he killed someone. And because he was without driving license then no insurance will pay for that. And another family will starve because you didn't stop him. Sympathy is important and you may skip a parking violation but...
– Adriano Repetti
Nov 29 at 18:19
@JoeStrazzere he told me to have acted strickly and at last let him go so that he would follow rule next time.
– Mubashir Hussain Rao
Nov 29 at 18:27