With radio not working, why it is more important to stay away from exactly class D airspace?
The instructions how to land when the radio is no longer working state as the first item "stay away from the class D airspace".
Why is the class D specifically mentioned in these instructions? How it could be that A, B which "has the most stringent rules" and C are less a problem?
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The instructions how to land when the radio is no longer working state as the first item "stay away from the class D airspace".
Why is the class D specifically mentioned in these instructions? How it could be that A, B which "has the most stringent rules" and C are less a problem?
faa-regulations landing emergency lost-communications class-d-airspace
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The instructions how to land when the radio is no longer working state as the first item "stay away from the class D airspace".
Why is the class D specifically mentioned in these instructions? How it could be that A, B which "has the most stringent rules" and C are less a problem?
faa-regulations landing emergency lost-communications class-d-airspace
edited Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
Lnafziger
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The instructions how to land when the radio is no longer working state as the first item "stay away from the class D airspace".
Why is the class D specifically mentioned in these instructions? How it could be that A, B which "has the most stringent rules" and C are less a problem?
faa-regulations landing emergency lost-communications class-d-airspace
faa-regulations landing emergency lost-communications class-d-airspace
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The procedure in the linked answer assumes you're VFR. If you're in class A airspace, that means you must be IFR, and there are specific (and somewhat different) procedures for IFR flights that lose radio communications--which may include landing at a class A/B/C airport. VFR pilots without radios should stick to class D/E airports, which are a lot more plentiful anyway. Most B/C airports are ringed by D/E airports, so unless you lose your radios while already inside class B/C airspace, those wouldn't be very logical options anyway.
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I think you are mis-interpreting the answer, you should remain outside Class-D until the flow of traffic can be acertained. If you lose comms outside of a Class-B or Class-C, you should not enter that airspace, instead divert to a Class-D or E airport if possible. If you are already inside the B/C airspace, continue, but don't enter. Class-A is different, as it is not surrounding airports and you can fly IFR after you've gotten your clearance with lost comms.
The original question links to the AIM, Chapter 4, Section 2-13, read that and see if it clears things up.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
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FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
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@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
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The procedure in the linked answer assumes you're VFR. If you're in class A airspace, that means you must be IFR, and there are specific (and somewhat different) procedures for IFR flights that lose radio communications--which may include landing at a class A/B/C airport. VFR pilots without radios should stick to class D/E airports, which are a lot more plentiful anyway. Most B/C airports are ringed by D/E airports, so unless you lose your radios while already inside class B/C airspace, those wouldn't be very logical options anyway.
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The procedure in the linked answer assumes you're VFR. If you're in class A airspace, that means you must be IFR, and there are specific (and somewhat different) procedures for IFR flights that lose radio communications--which may include landing at a class A/B/C airport. VFR pilots without radios should stick to class D/E airports, which are a lot more plentiful anyway. Most B/C airports are ringed by D/E airports, so unless you lose your radios while already inside class B/C airspace, those wouldn't be very logical options anyway.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 16:14
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The procedure in the linked answer assumes you're VFR. If you're in class A airspace, that means you must be IFR, and there are specific (and somewhat different) procedures for IFR flights that lose radio communications--which may include landing at a class A/B/C airport. VFR pilots without radios should stick to class D/E airports, which are a lot more plentiful anyway. Most B/C airports are ringed by D/E airports, so unless you lose your radios while already inside class B/C airspace, those wouldn't be very logical options anyway.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 16:14
StephenS
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The procedure in the linked answer assumes you're VFR. If you're in class A airspace, that means you must be IFR, and there are specific (and somewhat different) procedures for IFR flights that lose radio communications--which may include landing at a class A/B/C airport. VFR pilots without radios should stick to class D/E airports, which are a lot more plentiful anyway. Most B/C airports are ringed by D/E airports, so unless you lose your radios while already inside class B/C airspace, those wouldn't be very logical options anyway.
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I think you are mis-interpreting the answer, you should remain outside Class-D until the flow of traffic can be acertained. If you lose comms outside of a Class-B or Class-C, you should not enter that airspace, instead divert to a Class-D or E airport if possible. If you are already inside the B/C airspace, continue, but don't enter. Class-A is different, as it is not surrounding airports and you can fly IFR after you've gotten your clearance with lost comms.
The original question links to the AIM, Chapter 4, Section 2-13, read that and see if it clears things up.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
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FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
1
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
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I think you are mis-interpreting the answer, you should remain outside Class-D until the flow of traffic can be acertained. If you lose comms outside of a Class-B or Class-C, you should not enter that airspace, instead divert to a Class-D or E airport if possible. If you are already inside the B/C airspace, continue, but don't enter. Class-A is different, as it is not surrounding airports and you can fly IFR after you've gotten your clearance with lost comms.
The original question links to the AIM, Chapter 4, Section 2-13, read that and see if it clears things up.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
20.7k27498
FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
1
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
add a comment |
I think you are mis-interpreting the answer, you should remain outside Class-D until the flow of traffic can be acertained. If you lose comms outside of a Class-B or Class-C, you should not enter that airspace, instead divert to a Class-D or E airport if possible. If you are already inside the B/C airspace, continue, but don't enter. Class-A is different, as it is not surrounding airports and you can fly IFR after you've gotten your clearance with lost comms.
The original question links to the AIM, Chapter 4, Section 2-13, read that and see if it clears things up.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
20.7k27498
I think you are mis-interpreting the answer, you should remain outside Class-D until the flow of traffic can be acertained. If you lose comms outside of a Class-B or Class-C, you should not enter that airspace, instead divert to a Class-D or E airport if possible. If you are already inside the B/C airspace, continue, but don't enter. Class-A is different, as it is not surrounding airports and you can fly IFR after you've gotten your clearance with lost comms.
The original question links to the AIM, Chapter 4, Section 2-13, read that and see if it clears things up.
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
20.7k27498
answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
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answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
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answered Dec 2 '18 at 15:40
Ron Beyer
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FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
1
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
add a comment |
FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
1
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
FYI, Europe has a few airports in surface class A airspace, and some low-ish airways are class A too. Lots of different models outside the US on how/where to use the various classes.
– StephenS
Dec 2 '18 at 19:49
1
1
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
@StephenSprunk While true, the answer which was linked to in the original questions is about US/FAA procedures.
– Lnafziger
Dec 2 '18 at 23:52
add a comment |
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