How to show that $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ defined by $g(A) = Xcup A$ is continuous?











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In Galvin and Prikry's paper, they inroduce completely Ramsey sets.



Definition $5$: A set $Ssubseteq 2^mathbb{N}$ is completely Ramsey if $f^{-1}(S)$ is Ramsey for every continuous mapping $f:2^mathbb{N}to 2^mathbb{N}.$




Question: What is a topology in $2^mathbb{N}?$






As mentioned by @Patrick Stevens below, the authors consider product topology on $2^mathbb{N}.$



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Question: Suppose that $X$ is a finite subset of $mathbb{N}$ and $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}.$
Define $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ by
$$g(A) = Xcup A.$$
How to show that $g$ is continuous?




The function $g$ is defined in the proof of Lemma $7$ of the paper above.
The authors do not prove it.










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    In Galvin and Prikry's paper, they inroduce completely Ramsey sets.



    Definition $5$: A set $Ssubseteq 2^mathbb{N}$ is completely Ramsey if $f^{-1}(S)$ is Ramsey for every continuous mapping $f:2^mathbb{N}to 2^mathbb{N}.$




    Question: What is a topology in $2^mathbb{N}?$






    As mentioned by @Patrick Stevens below, the authors consider product topology on $2^mathbb{N}.$



    I have another question:




    Question: Suppose that $X$ is a finite subset of $mathbb{N}$ and $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}.$
    Define $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ by
    $$g(A) = Xcup A.$$
    How to show that $g$ is continuous?




    The function $g$ is defined in the proof of Lemma $7$ of the paper above.
    The authors do not prove it.










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      In Galvin and Prikry's paper, they inroduce completely Ramsey sets.



      Definition $5$: A set $Ssubseteq 2^mathbb{N}$ is completely Ramsey if $f^{-1}(S)$ is Ramsey for every continuous mapping $f:2^mathbb{N}to 2^mathbb{N}.$




      Question: What is a topology in $2^mathbb{N}?$






      As mentioned by @Patrick Stevens below, the authors consider product topology on $2^mathbb{N}.$



      I have another question:




      Question: Suppose that $X$ is a finite subset of $mathbb{N}$ and $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}.$
      Define $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ by
      $$g(A) = Xcup A.$$
      How to show that $g$ is continuous?




      The function $g$ is defined in the proof of Lemma $7$ of the paper above.
      The authors do not prove it.










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      In Galvin and Prikry's paper, they inroduce completely Ramsey sets.



      Definition $5$: A set $Ssubseteq 2^mathbb{N}$ is completely Ramsey if $f^{-1}(S)$ is Ramsey for every continuous mapping $f:2^mathbb{N}to 2^mathbb{N}.$




      Question: What is a topology in $2^mathbb{N}?$






      As mentioned by @Patrick Stevens below, the authors consider product topology on $2^mathbb{N}.$



      I have another question:




      Question: Suppose that $X$ is a finite subset of $mathbb{N}$ and $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}.$
      Define $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ by
      $$g(A) = Xcup A.$$
      How to show that $g$ is continuous?




      The function $g$ is defined in the proof of Lemma $7$ of the paper above.
      The authors do not prove it.







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          A map into a product is continuous iff all the compositions with the projections from that product are continuous.



          Now $pi_n circ g$ is the constant $1$ map for $n in X$, the identity for all other $n$, so always continuous, so $g$ is too:



          Note that $A$ is just identified with $chi_A: mathbb{N} to 2$, so $n in A$ is just the same as $pi_n(A)=1$. So $pi_n(A cup X)$ is $1$ for all $n in X$ and all $n in A$ and $0$ for all $ n notin A cup X$. So when $n notin X$, $pi_n(g(A))= pi_n(A cup X) = pi_n(A)$ and for all $n in X$, $pi_n(X cup A) = 1$.



          Finiteness of $X$ nor infiniteness of $M$ plays any part.






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          • It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:56












          • @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 9:58












          • How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 10:00










          • @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 10:04


















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          As the paper says in the first paragraph, it's the product topology.






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          • I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:47













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          A map into a product is continuous iff all the compositions with the projections from that product are continuous.



          Now $pi_n circ g$ is the constant $1$ map for $n in X$, the identity for all other $n$, so always continuous, so $g$ is too:



          Note that $A$ is just identified with $chi_A: mathbb{N} to 2$, so $n in A$ is just the same as $pi_n(A)=1$. So $pi_n(A cup X)$ is $1$ for all $n in X$ and all $n in A$ and $0$ for all $ n notin A cup X$. So when $n notin X$, $pi_n(g(A))= pi_n(A cup X) = pi_n(A)$ and for all $n in X$, $pi_n(X cup A) = 1$.



          Finiteness of $X$ nor infiniteness of $M$ plays any part.






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          • It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:56












          • @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 9:58












          • How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 10:00










          • @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 10:04















          up vote
          2
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          A map into a product is continuous iff all the compositions with the projections from that product are continuous.



          Now $pi_n circ g$ is the constant $1$ map for $n in X$, the identity for all other $n$, so always continuous, so $g$ is too:



          Note that $A$ is just identified with $chi_A: mathbb{N} to 2$, so $n in A$ is just the same as $pi_n(A)=1$. So $pi_n(A cup X)$ is $1$ for all $n in X$ and all $n in A$ and $0$ for all $ n notin A cup X$. So when $n notin X$, $pi_n(g(A))= pi_n(A cup X) = pi_n(A)$ and for all $n in X$, $pi_n(X cup A) = 1$.



          Finiteness of $X$ nor infiniteness of $M$ plays any part.






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          • It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:56












          • @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 9:58












          • How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 10:00










          • @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 10:04













          up vote
          2
          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
          2
          down vote



          accepted






          A map into a product is continuous iff all the compositions with the projections from that product are continuous.



          Now $pi_n circ g$ is the constant $1$ map for $n in X$, the identity for all other $n$, so always continuous, so $g$ is too:



          Note that $A$ is just identified with $chi_A: mathbb{N} to 2$, so $n in A$ is just the same as $pi_n(A)=1$. So $pi_n(A cup X)$ is $1$ for all $n in X$ and all $n in A$ and $0$ for all $ n notin A cup X$. So when $n notin X$, $pi_n(g(A))= pi_n(A cup X) = pi_n(A)$ and for all $n in X$, $pi_n(X cup A) = 1$.



          Finiteness of $X$ nor infiniteness of $M$ plays any part.






          share|cite|improve this answer














          A map into a product is continuous iff all the compositions with the projections from that product are continuous.



          Now $pi_n circ g$ is the constant $1$ map for $n in X$, the identity for all other $n$, so always continuous, so $g$ is too:



          Note that $A$ is just identified with $chi_A: mathbb{N} to 2$, so $n in A$ is just the same as $pi_n(A)=1$. So $pi_n(A cup X)$ is $1$ for all $n in X$ and all $n in A$ and $0$ for all $ n notin A cup X$. So when $n notin X$, $pi_n(g(A))= pi_n(A cup X) = pi_n(A)$ and for all $n in X$, $pi_n(X cup A) = 1$.



          Finiteness of $X$ nor infiniteness of $M$ plays any part.







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          answered Nov 17 at 9:51









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          • It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:56












          • @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 9:58












          • How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 10:00










          • @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 10:04


















          • It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:56












          • @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 9:58












          • How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 10:00










          • @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
            – Henno Brandsma
            Nov 17 at 10:04
















          It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 9:56






          It seems that from your argument above, any function $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous. May I know where is my mistake? In particular, I do not see the definition of $g$ being used anywhere in your argument.
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 9:56














          @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Nov 17 at 9:58






          @Idonknow No, I use the specific definition of $g$ to see the identities on the projections. There are many discontinuous maps from $2^M$ to $2^mathbb{N}$.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Nov 17 at 9:58














          How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 10:00




          How do you obtain that $pi_ncirc g$ is the constant function $1$?
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 10:00












          @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Nov 17 at 10:04




          @Idonknow I expanded the argument. $X$ is always a subset of $g(A)$.
          – Henno Brandsma
          Nov 17 at 10:04










          up vote
          1
          down vote













          As the paper says in the first paragraph, it's the product topology.






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          • I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:47

















          up vote
          1
          down vote













          As the paper says in the first paragraph, it's the product topology.






          share|cite|improve this answer





















          • I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:47















          up vote
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          As the paper says in the first paragraph, it's the product topology.






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          As the paper says in the first paragraph, it's the product topology.







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          • I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:47




















          • I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
            – Idonknow
            Nov 17 at 9:47


















          I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 9:47






          I have modified my question. In particular, how do we show that a map $g:2^Mto 2^mathbb{N}$ is continuous where $M$ is a countable subset of $mathbb{N}?$
          – Idonknow
          Nov 17 at 9:47




















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