Is this a valid way to prove that $x > 4$ $Rightarrow$ $x^2 > 9$











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$x > 4$



$rightarrow$ $x - 1 > 3$



$rightarrow$ $(x - 1)^2 > 9$
and obviously if $(x - 1)^2 > 9$ then $x^2 > 9$










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  • See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
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  • It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
    – Brian Borchers
    Nov 18 at 4:52










  • @BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
    – Rócherz
    Nov 18 at 4:53






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    I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
    – Andres Mejia
    Nov 18 at 4:53















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$x > 4$



$rightarrow$ $x - 1 > 3$



$rightarrow$ $(x - 1)^2 > 9$
and obviously if $(x - 1)^2 > 9$ then $x^2 > 9$










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  • See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
    – NoChance
    Nov 18 at 4:50










  • It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
    – Brian Borchers
    Nov 18 at 4:52










  • @BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
    – Rócherz
    Nov 18 at 4:53






  • 1




    I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
    – Andres Mejia
    Nov 18 at 4:53













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$x > 4$



$rightarrow$ $x - 1 > 3$



$rightarrow$ $(x - 1)^2 > 9$
and obviously if $(x - 1)^2 > 9$ then $x^2 > 9$










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$x > 4$



$rightarrow$ $x - 1 > 3$



$rightarrow$ $(x - 1)^2 > 9$
and obviously if $(x - 1)^2 > 9$ then $x^2 > 9$







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edited Nov 18 at 4:51









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  • See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
    – NoChance
    Nov 18 at 4:50










  • It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
    – Brian Borchers
    Nov 18 at 4:52










  • @BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
    – Rócherz
    Nov 18 at 4:53






  • 1




    I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
    – Andres Mejia
    Nov 18 at 4:53


















  • See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
    – NoChance
    Nov 18 at 4:50










  • It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
    – Brian Borchers
    Nov 18 at 4:52










  • @BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
    – Rócherz
    Nov 18 at 4:53






  • 1




    I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
    – Andres Mejia
    Nov 18 at 4:53
















See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
– NoChance
Nov 18 at 4:50




See: math.stackexchange.com/questions/568780/…
– NoChance
Nov 18 at 4:50












It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
– Brian Borchers
Nov 18 at 4:52




It's not true that $(x-1)^{2}>9$ implies that $x^{2}>9$. For example, if $x=-2.5$, then $(x-1)^{2}>9$ but $x^{2}<9$.
– Brian Borchers
Nov 18 at 4:52












@BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
– Rócherz
Nov 18 at 4:53




@BrianBorchers $x>4$ from the start.
– Rócherz
Nov 18 at 4:53




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1




I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
– Andres Mejia
Nov 18 at 4:53




I guess somewhere you need to use that $x>0$ in an essential way.
– Andres Mejia
Nov 18 at 4:53










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Why don't you use
$$x>4implies x^2>16>9$$



Note: How did we arrive at the second step from the first one?






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  • Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
    – ming
    Nov 18 at 5:30










  • @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
    – tatan
    Nov 18 at 15:50


















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There are two underlying facts in what you label as "obvious" in your last step.



$x-1>3 implies x-1>0$.



$x>x-1$ (this one is universal) and $x-1>0 implies x^2>(x-1)^2$.



But of course the fastest way is as Andrés Mejía and tatan suggested.






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    Why don't you use
    $$x>4implies x^2>16>9$$



    Note: How did we arrive at the second step from the first one?






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    • Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
      – ming
      Nov 18 at 5:30










    • @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
      – tatan
      Nov 18 at 15:50















    up vote
    4
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    Why don't you use
    $$x>4implies x^2>16>9$$



    Note: How did we arrive at the second step from the first one?






    share|cite|improve this answer





















    • Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
      – ming
      Nov 18 at 5:30










    • @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
      – tatan
      Nov 18 at 15:50













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    up vote
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    Why don't you use
    $$x>4implies x^2>16>9$$



    Note: How did we arrive at the second step from the first one?






    share|cite|improve this answer












    Why don't you use
    $$x>4implies x^2>16>9$$



    Note: How did we arrive at the second step from the first one?







    share|cite|improve this answer












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    • Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
      – ming
      Nov 18 at 5:30










    • @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
      – tatan
      Nov 18 at 15:50


















    • Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
      – ming
      Nov 18 at 5:30










    • @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
      – tatan
      Nov 18 at 15:50
















    Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
    – ming
    Nov 18 at 5:30




    Oh that's probably better haha. But does mine make sense at least? Like if I used it on an exam would I get full marks?
    – ming
    Nov 18 at 5:30












    @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
    – tatan
    Nov 18 at 15:50




    @ming Your argument is also correct however to be on the safe side in an exam, you should write that "...since,we know, $x^2$ is an increasing function, hence the result follows...". You should explicitly mention that $x^2$ is an increasing function.
    – tatan
    Nov 18 at 15:50










    up vote
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    There are two underlying facts in what you label as "obvious" in your last step.



    $x-1>3 implies x-1>0$.



    $x>x-1$ (this one is universal) and $x-1>0 implies x^2>(x-1)^2$.



    But of course the fastest way is as Andrés Mejía and tatan suggested.






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      There are two underlying facts in what you label as "obvious" in your last step.



      $x-1>3 implies x-1>0$.



      $x>x-1$ (this one is universal) and $x-1>0 implies x^2>(x-1)^2$.



      But of course the fastest way is as Andrés Mejía and tatan suggested.






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        There are two underlying facts in what you label as "obvious" in your last step.



        $x-1>3 implies x-1>0$.



        $x>x-1$ (this one is universal) and $x-1>0 implies x^2>(x-1)^2$.



        But of course the fastest way is as Andrés Mejía and tatan suggested.






        share|cite|improve this answer














        There are two underlying facts in what you label as "obvious" in your last step.



        $x-1>3 implies x-1>0$.



        $x>x-1$ (this one is universal) and $x-1>0 implies x^2>(x-1)^2$.



        But of course the fastest way is as Andrés Mejía and tatan suggested.







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        answered Nov 18 at 4:59









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