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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
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can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
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can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42
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can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42
can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
Solution:
We see that $ f(x)=0 $ is one solution.
We now proceed to find other solutions that are not identically zero. For these solutions we can find points $ a $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $.
Also note that $ f(0)=0 $ :
$f(0)=f(0f(0)+0f(0))=0(f(0)+f(0))=0 $.
$ f(x) $ must be surjective:
Choose $ a neq 0 $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $. Now : $f(y^2f(a)+a^2f(y))=ay(f(a)+f(y)) ge yaf(a) ,;forall yin [0,+infty)$ . The right part of this inequality can be made arbitrarily large. So values of $ f(x) $ range from $ 0 $ to $ infty $. Because of the continuity requirement all values in between must be reached somewhere $ implies f(x) $ is surjective.
Also the argument of $ f() $ on the left of the inequality above: $ y^2f(a)+a^2f(y) $ goes to $ 0 $ when $ y $ goes to $ 0 $ , and it goes to $ infty $ when $ y $ goes to $ infty $.
Because of the surjectivity, continuity and the fact that $ f(0)=0 $ the function: $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ is also continuous, surjective and ranges from $ 0 $ to $ infty $.
In other words: every $ a in mathbb{R_{ge 0}} $ can be written as $ 2b^2f(b) $ for some $ b ge 0 $ .
Therefore we can change the coordinates of $ f() $ from $ x $ to $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ without loss of generality.
$f(lambda)=f(2x^2f(x)) =f(x^2f(x)+x^2f(x))=x^2(f(x)+f(x))=2x^2f(x)=lambdaimplies $
The only continuous solutions are : $ f(x)=0 $ and $ f(x)=x $.
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
Solution:
We see that $ f(x)=0 $ is one solution.
We now proceed to find other solutions that are not identically zero. For these solutions we can find points $ a $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $.
Also note that $ f(0)=0 $ :
$f(0)=f(0f(0)+0f(0))=0(f(0)+f(0))=0 $.
$ f(x) $ must be surjective:
Choose $ a neq 0 $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $. Now : $f(y^2f(a)+a^2f(y))=ay(f(a)+f(y)) ge yaf(a) ,;forall yin [0,+infty)$ . The right part of this inequality can be made arbitrarily large. So values of $ f(x) $ range from $ 0 $ to $ infty $. Because of the continuity requirement all values in between must be reached somewhere $ implies f(x) $ is surjective.
Also the argument of $ f() $ on the left of the inequality above: $ y^2f(a)+a^2f(y) $ goes to $ 0 $ when $ y $ goes to $ 0 $ , and it goes to $ infty $ when $ y $ goes to $ infty $.
Because of the surjectivity, continuity and the fact that $ f(0)=0 $ the function: $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ is also continuous, surjective and ranges from $ 0 $ to $ infty $.
In other words: every $ a in mathbb{R_{ge 0}} $ can be written as $ 2b^2f(b) $ for some $ b ge 0 $ .
Therefore we can change the coordinates of $ f() $ from $ x $ to $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ without loss of generality.
$f(lambda)=f(2x^2f(x)) =f(x^2f(x)+x^2f(x))=x^2(f(x)+f(x))=2x^2f(x)=lambdaimplies $
The only continuous solutions are : $ f(x)=0 $ and $ f(x)=x $.
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
Solution:
We see that $ f(x)=0 $ is one solution.
We now proceed to find other solutions that are not identically zero. For these solutions we can find points $ a $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $.
Also note that $ f(0)=0 $ :
$f(0)=f(0f(0)+0f(0))=0(f(0)+f(0))=0 $.
$ f(x) $ must be surjective:
Choose $ a neq 0 $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $. Now : $f(y^2f(a)+a^2f(y))=ay(f(a)+f(y)) ge yaf(a) ,;forall yin [0,+infty)$ . The right part of this inequality can be made arbitrarily large. So values of $ f(x) $ range from $ 0 $ to $ infty $. Because of the continuity requirement all values in between must be reached somewhere $ implies f(x) $ is surjective.
Also the argument of $ f() $ on the left of the inequality above: $ y^2f(a)+a^2f(y) $ goes to $ 0 $ when $ y $ goes to $ 0 $ , and it goes to $ infty $ when $ y $ goes to $ infty $.
Because of the surjectivity, continuity and the fact that $ f(0)=0 $ the function: $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ is also continuous, surjective and ranges from $ 0 $ to $ infty $.
In other words: every $ a in mathbb{R_{ge 0}} $ can be written as $ 2b^2f(b) $ for some $ b ge 0 $ .
Therefore we can change the coordinates of $ f() $ from $ x $ to $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ without loss of generality.
$f(lambda)=f(2x^2f(x)) =f(x^2f(x)+x^2f(x))=x^2(f(x)+f(x))=2x^2f(x)=lambdaimplies $
The only continuous solutions are : $ f(x)=0 $ and $ f(x)=x $.
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Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
Solution:
We see that $ f(x)=0 $ is one solution.
We now proceed to find other solutions that are not identically zero. For these solutions we can find points $ a $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $.
Also note that $ f(0)=0 $ :
$f(0)=f(0f(0)+0f(0))=0(f(0)+f(0))=0 $.
$ f(x) $ must be surjective:
Choose $ a neq 0 $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $. Now : $f(y^2f(a)+a^2f(y))=ay(f(a)+f(y)) ge yaf(a) ,;forall yin [0,+infty)$ . The right part of this inequality can be made arbitrarily large. So values of $ f(x) $ range from $ 0 $ to $ infty $. Because of the continuity requirement all values in between must be reached somewhere $ implies f(x) $ is surjective.
Also the argument of $ f() $ on the left of the inequality above: $ y^2f(a)+a^2f(y) $ goes to $ 0 $ when $ y $ goes to $ 0 $ , and it goes to $ infty $ when $ y $ goes to $ infty $.
Because of the surjectivity, continuity and the fact that $ f(0)=0 $ the function: $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ is also continuous, surjective and ranges from $ 0 $ to $ infty $.
In other words: every $ a in mathbb{R_{ge 0}} $ can be written as $ 2b^2f(b) $ for some $ b ge 0 $ .
Therefore we can change the coordinates of $ f() $ from $ x $ to $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ without loss of generality.
$f(lambda)=f(2x^2f(x)) =f(x^2f(x)+x^2f(x))=x^2(f(x)+f(x))=2x^2f(x)=lambdaimplies $
The only continuous solutions are : $ f(x)=0 $ and $ f(x)=x $.
Problem:find all continuous functions $f:[0,+infty)to [0,+infty)$ such that $$f(y^2f(x)+x^2f(y))=xy(f(x)+f(y)),;forall x,yin [0,+infty)$$
Solution:
We see that $ f(x)=0 $ is one solution.
We now proceed to find other solutions that are not identically zero. For these solutions we can find points $ a $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $.
Also note that $ f(0)=0 $ :
$f(0)=f(0f(0)+0f(0))=0(f(0)+f(0))=0 $.
$ f(x) $ must be surjective:
Choose $ a neq 0 $ for which $ f(a) neq 0 $. Now : $f(y^2f(a)+a^2f(y))=ay(f(a)+f(y)) ge yaf(a) ,;forall yin [0,+infty)$ . The right part of this inequality can be made arbitrarily large. So values of $ f(x) $ range from $ 0 $ to $ infty $. Because of the continuity requirement all values in between must be reached somewhere $ implies f(x) $ is surjective.
Also the argument of $ f() $ on the left of the inequality above: $ y^2f(a)+a^2f(y) $ goes to $ 0 $ when $ y $ goes to $ 0 $ , and it goes to $ infty $ when $ y $ goes to $ infty $.
Because of the surjectivity, continuity and the fact that $ f(0)=0 $ the function: $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ is also continuous, surjective and ranges from $ 0 $ to $ infty $.
In other words: every $ a in mathbb{R_{ge 0}} $ can be written as $ 2b^2f(b) $ for some $ b ge 0 $ .
Therefore we can change the coordinates of $ f() $ from $ x $ to $ lambda(x) = 2x^2f(x) $ without loss of generality.
$f(lambda)=f(2x^2f(x)) =f(x^2f(x)+x^2f(x))=x^2(f(x)+f(x))=2x^2f(x)=lambdaimplies $
The only continuous solutions are : $ f(x)=0 $ and $ f(x)=x $.
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can you add your attempt please ? :)
– r9m
Mar 8 '14 at 1:37
I note $f(2 f(1)) = 2f(1)$, so is the identity function there.
– Eric Towers
Mar 8 '14 at 1:53
In fact, setting $y = x$ reveals that $f(2x^2f(x)) = 2x^2f(x)$
– Yiyuan Lee
Mar 8 '14 at 2:08
I don't know what you wrote.Could you post full solutions?
– Babymath
Mar 8 '14 at 7:01
Let $g(x)=f(x)-x$,could anybody prove that $g(x)=const$?
– Babymath
Mar 23 '14 at 1:42