Evaluating a particular Lebesgue integral
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I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.
It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.
I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.
Some hints would be appreciated here!
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I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.
It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.
I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.
Some hints would be appreciated here!
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I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.
It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.
I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.
Some hints would be appreciated here!
real-analysis
I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.
It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.
I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.
Some hints would be appreciated here!
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Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
$$
int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
$$
We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
$$
int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
$$
Finally, the answer is $$
int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
$$
(Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)
If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
$$
mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
$$ which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.
(Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
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Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
$$
int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
$$
We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
$$
int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
$$
Finally, the answer is $$
int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
$$
(Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)
If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
$$
mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
$$ which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.
(Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
$$
int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
$$
We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
$$
int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
$$
Finally, the answer is $$
int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
$$
(Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)
If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
$$
mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
$$ which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.
(Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
|
show 4 more comments
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
up vote
1
down vote
accepted
Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
$$
int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
$$
We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
$$
int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
$$
Finally, the answer is $$
int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
$$
(Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)
If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
$$
mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
$$ which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.
(Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)
Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
$$
int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
$$
We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
$$
int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
$$
Finally, the answer is $$
int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
$$
(Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)
If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
$$
mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
$$ which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.
(Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)
edited Nov 18 at 9:20
answered Nov 18 at 4:13
Song
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How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
|
show 4 more comments
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 4:45
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
$mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
– Song
Nov 18 at 5:01
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
– Taliant
Nov 18 at 5:20
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
Oh, I see my mistake.
– Song
Nov 18 at 8:53
1
1
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
– Song
Nov 18 at 23:29
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