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I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.



It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.



I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.



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    I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.



    It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.



    I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.



    Some hints would be appreciated here!










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      I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.



      It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.



      I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.



      Some hints would be appreciated here!










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      I would like to evaluate the Lebesgue integral $int_{Omega}x-y^2 ,dx,dy$ using the level set definition of the Lebesgue integral. Here $Omega = -sqrt{x} < y < x, 0 < x < 1$.



      It seems easy enough to handle the $y$ term if it's over the real line. Just realize that you're dealing with $mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: y^2 < -t} = mu {y: -y^2 > t} = mu {y: |y| < sqrt{-t}}$, where $mu$ is Lebesgue measure and $t$ is a real number. We can then use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball to see that this equals $pi t^2$. However, this is not the case, so I'm not quite sure what to do.



      I think that the next step involves Fubini's theorem. However, I'm having difficulty getting the measure of $x$, since it doesn't look like we can use the definition of the Lebesgue measure of a ball.



      Some hints would be appreciated here!







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          Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
          $$
          int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
          $$

          We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
          $$
          int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
          $$

          Finally, the answer is $$
          int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
          $$

          (Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)

          If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
          $$
          mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
          $$
          which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.

          (Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)






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          • How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 4:45










          • $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 5:01










          • What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 5:20










          • Oh, I see my mistake.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 8:53








          • 1




            The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 23:29













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          Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
          $$
          int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
          $$

          We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
          $$
          int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
          $$

          Finally, the answer is $$
          int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
          $$

          (Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)

          If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
          $$
          mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
          $$
          which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.

          (Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)






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          • How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 4:45










          • $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 5:01










          • What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 5:20










          • Oh, I see my mistake.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 8:53








          • 1




            The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 23:29

















          up vote
          1
          down vote



          accepted










          Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
          $$
          int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
          $$

          We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
          $$
          int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
          $$

          Finally, the answer is $$
          int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
          $$

          (Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)

          If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
          $$
          mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
          $$
          which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.

          (Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)






          share|cite|improve this answer























          • How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 4:45










          • $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 5:01










          • What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 5:20










          • Oh, I see my mistake.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 8:53








          • 1




            The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 23:29















          up vote
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          down vote



          accepted







          up vote
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          down vote



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          Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
          $$
          int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
          $$

          We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
          $$
          int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
          $$

          Finally, the answer is $$
          int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
          $$

          (Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)

          If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
          $$
          mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
          $$
          which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.

          (Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)






          share|cite|improve this answer














          Level set definition works for a nonnegative function. Thus, you cannot apply it to $int xdxdy$ and $int -y^2 dxdy$ separately. If correctly done,
          $$
          int_Omega (x-y^2) dxdy = int_0^1 dxleft(int_{-sqrt{x}}^{x} (x-y^2)dyright)=int_0^1 dxleft(int_0^infty mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t)dtright).
          $$

          We can see that $$mu(yin(-sqrt{x},x);|;x-y^2>t) = sqrt{x-t} + [sqrt{x-t} wedge x] $$is equal to $sqrt{x-t}+x$ for $0<t<x-x^2$ and $2sqrt{x-t}$ for $x-x^2 <t<x$. By integrating separately, we get
          $$
          int_0^{x-x^2} sqrt{x-t}+x;dt + int_{x-x^2}^x 2sqrt{x-t};dt = int^x_{x^2}sqrt{t} dt + x^2(1-x) + 2int_0^{x^2}sqrt{t} dt = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3.
          $$

          Finally, the answer is $$
          int_0^1 frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3dx = frac{31}{60}.
          $$

          (Apply Fubini's theorem first, then 1-dimensional integral about $y$ is calculated using your method.)

          If you want to apply level set method in 2-dimension directly, you should calculate
          $$
          mu_2(xin [0,1], yin [-sqrt{x},x];|; x-y^2 >t ),
          $$
          which also requires Fubini's theorem to calculate 2-dimensional Lebesgue meausure.

          (Note: We can see that $int_{-sqrt{x}}^x (x-y^2)dy = frac{2}{3}x^{1.5} + x^2 -frac{1}{3}x^3$ as expected.)







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          • How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 4:45










          • $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 5:01










          • What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 5:20










          • Oh, I see my mistake.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 8:53








          • 1




            The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 23:29




















          • How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 4:45










          • $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 5:01










          • What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
            – Taliant
            Nov 18 at 5:20










          • Oh, I see my mistake.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 8:53








          • 1




            The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
            – Song
            Nov 18 at 23:29


















          How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
          – Taliant
          Nov 18 at 4:45




          How do you move from the third part of the equality to the fourth?
          – Taliant
          Nov 18 at 4:45












          $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 5:01




          $mu$ is a 1-dimensional Lebesgue measure, so $mu(yin[-sqrt{x},sqrt{x}];|;x-y^2>t) = mu(y ;| ;|y|<sqrt{x-t} ) = 2sqrt{x-t}$ if $tleq x$, and is $0$ if $t>x$.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 5:01












          What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
          – Taliant
          Nov 18 at 5:20




          What I don't understand is why you consider $y in [-sqrt{x}, sqrt{x}]$.
          – Taliant
          Nov 18 at 5:20












          Oh, I see my mistake.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 8:53






          Oh, I see my mistake.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 8:53






          1




          1




          The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 23:29






          The set whose measure we want to calculate is divided into positive and negative part. On the negative half, since $-sqrt{x}<-sqrt{x-t}<0$, it's equal to $(-sqrt{x-t},0]$ giving the measure $sqrt{x-t}$. On the positive half, $sqrt{x-t}$ and $x$ are crossing, thus $[0, sqrt{x-t}) cap [0,x) = [0, sqrt{x-t}wedge x)$ and its measure equals $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$. That's why I include $sqrt{x-t}wedge x$ in the expression.
          – Song
          Nov 18 at 23:29




















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