Proof using AM-GM inequality
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The questions has two parts:
Prove
(i) $ xy^{3} leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{3}{4}y^{4} $
and
(ii) $ xy^{3} + x^{3}y leq x^{4} + y^{4}$.
Now then, I went about putting both sides of $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$
to the power of 4 and it left me with
$$-x^{3}y leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{1}{4}y^{4} + xy^{3} + frac{5}{2}x^{2}y^{2}. $$
Curiously squaring and multiplying $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$ I've tried merging the results with my other inequality a few times to no avail - I just can't seem to get the signs right and nor can I seem to make the coefficients of the $x^{4}$ and $y^{4}$ different, as they are in (i). I feel like there's something I'm missing. Does anyone see a nice way about this problem?
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The questions has two parts:
Prove
(i) $ xy^{3} leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{3}{4}y^{4} $
and
(ii) $ xy^{3} + x^{3}y leq x^{4} + y^{4}$.
Now then, I went about putting both sides of $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$
to the power of 4 and it left me with
$$-x^{3}y leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{1}{4}y^{4} + xy^{3} + frac{5}{2}x^{2}y^{2}. $$
Curiously squaring and multiplying $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$ I've tried merging the results with my other inequality a few times to no avail - I just can't seem to get the signs right and nor can I seem to make the coefficients of the $x^{4}$ and $y^{4}$ different, as they are in (i). I feel like there's something I'm missing. Does anyone see a nice way about this problem?
inequality a.m.-g.m.-inequality geometric-inequalities
Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
1
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01
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up vote
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The questions has two parts:
Prove
(i) $ xy^{3} leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{3}{4}y^{4} $
and
(ii) $ xy^{3} + x^{3}y leq x^{4} + y^{4}$.
Now then, I went about putting both sides of $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$
to the power of 4 and it left me with
$$-x^{3}y leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{1}{4}y^{4} + xy^{3} + frac{5}{2}x^{2}y^{2}. $$
Curiously squaring and multiplying $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$ I've tried merging the results with my other inequality a few times to no avail - I just can't seem to get the signs right and nor can I seem to make the coefficients of the $x^{4}$ and $y^{4}$ different, as they are in (i). I feel like there's something I'm missing. Does anyone see a nice way about this problem?
inequality a.m.-g.m.-inequality geometric-inequalities
The questions has two parts:
Prove
(i) $ xy^{3} leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{3}{4}y^{4} $
and
(ii) $ xy^{3} + x^{3}y leq x^{4} + y^{4}$.
Now then, I went about putting both sides of $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$
to the power of 4 and it left me with
$$-x^{3}y leq frac{1}{4}x^{4} + frac{1}{4}y^{4} + xy^{3} + frac{5}{2}x^{2}y^{2}. $$
Curiously squaring and multiplying $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$ I've tried merging the results with my other inequality a few times to no avail - I just can't seem to get the signs right and nor can I seem to make the coefficients of the $x^{4}$ and $y^{4}$ different, as they are in (i). I feel like there's something I'm missing. Does anyone see a nice way about this problem?
inequality a.m.-g.m.-inequality geometric-inequalities
inequality a.m.-g.m.-inequality geometric-inequalities
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Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
1
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01
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Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
1
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01
Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
1
1
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01
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Because by AM-GM $$3y^4+x^4geq4sqrt[4]{left(y^4right)^3x^4}=4|xy^3|geq4xy^3$$ and
$$x^4+y^4-x^3y-xy^3=(x-y)(x^3-y^3)=(x-y)^2(x^2+xy+y^2)geq$$
$$geq(x-y)^2left(2sqrt{x^2y^2}+xyright)=(x-y)^2left(2|xy|+xyright)geq0.$$
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(i) follows from Young's inequality for $p = 4$ and $q = frac43$:
$$xy^3 le |x||y|^3 le frac{|x|^p}{p} + frac{left(|y|^3right)^q}q = frac{|x|^4}4 + frac{left(|y|^3right)^{4/3}}{4/3} = frac{|x|^4+3|y|^4}4 = frac{x^4+3y^4}4$$
(ii) follows from (i):
$$xy^3 + x^3y le frac{x^4+3y^4}4 + frac{3x^4+y^4}4 = x^4+y^4$$
@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
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2 Answers
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active
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active
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up vote
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accepted
Because by AM-GM $$3y^4+x^4geq4sqrt[4]{left(y^4right)^3x^4}=4|xy^3|geq4xy^3$$ and
$$x^4+y^4-x^3y-xy^3=(x-y)(x^3-y^3)=(x-y)^2(x^2+xy+y^2)geq$$
$$geq(x-y)^2left(2sqrt{x^2y^2}+xyright)=(x-y)^2left(2|xy|+xyright)geq0.$$
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up vote
5
down vote
accepted
Because by AM-GM $$3y^4+x^4geq4sqrt[4]{left(y^4right)^3x^4}=4|xy^3|geq4xy^3$$ and
$$x^4+y^4-x^3y-xy^3=(x-y)(x^3-y^3)=(x-y)^2(x^2+xy+y^2)geq$$
$$geq(x-y)^2left(2sqrt{x^2y^2}+xyright)=(x-y)^2left(2|xy|+xyright)geq0.$$
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up vote
5
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Because by AM-GM $$3y^4+x^4geq4sqrt[4]{left(y^4right)^3x^4}=4|xy^3|geq4xy^3$$ and
$$x^4+y^4-x^3y-xy^3=(x-y)(x^3-y^3)=(x-y)^2(x^2+xy+y^2)geq$$
$$geq(x-y)^2left(2sqrt{x^2y^2}+xyright)=(x-y)^2left(2|xy|+xyright)geq0.$$
Because by AM-GM $$3y^4+x^4geq4sqrt[4]{left(y^4right)^3x^4}=4|xy^3|geq4xy^3$$ and
$$x^4+y^4-x^3y-xy^3=(x-y)(x^3-y^3)=(x-y)^2(x^2+xy+y^2)geq$$
$$geq(x-y)^2left(2sqrt{x^2y^2}+xyright)=(x-y)^2left(2|xy|+xyright)geq0.$$
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(i) follows from Young's inequality for $p = 4$ and $q = frac43$:
$$xy^3 le |x||y|^3 le frac{|x|^p}{p} + frac{left(|y|^3right)^q}q = frac{|x|^4}4 + frac{left(|y|^3right)^{4/3}}{4/3} = frac{|x|^4+3|y|^4}4 = frac{x^4+3y^4}4$$
(ii) follows from (i):
$$xy^3 + x^3y le frac{x^4+3y^4}4 + frac{3x^4+y^4}4 = x^4+y^4$$
@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
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(i) follows from Young's inequality for $p = 4$ and $q = frac43$:
$$xy^3 le |x||y|^3 le frac{|x|^p}{p} + frac{left(|y|^3right)^q}q = frac{|x|^4}4 + frac{left(|y|^3right)^{4/3}}{4/3} = frac{|x|^4+3|y|^4}4 = frac{x^4+3y^4}4$$
(ii) follows from (i):
$$xy^3 + x^3y le frac{x^4+3y^4}4 + frac{3x^4+y^4}4 = x^4+y^4$$
@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
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(i) follows from Young's inequality for $p = 4$ and $q = frac43$:
$$xy^3 le |x||y|^3 le frac{|x|^p}{p} + frac{left(|y|^3right)^q}q = frac{|x|^4}4 + frac{left(|y|^3right)^{4/3}}{4/3} = frac{|x|^4+3|y|^4}4 = frac{x^4+3y^4}4$$
(ii) follows from (i):
$$xy^3 + x^3y le frac{x^4+3y^4}4 + frac{3x^4+y^4}4 = x^4+y^4$$
(i) follows from Young's inequality for $p = 4$ and $q = frac43$:
$$xy^3 le |x||y|^3 le frac{|x|^p}{p} + frac{left(|y|^3right)^q}q = frac{|x|^4}4 + frac{left(|y|^3right)^{4/3}}{4/3} = frac{|x|^4+3|y|^4}4 = frac{x^4+3y^4}4$$
(ii) follows from (i):
$$xy^3 + x^3y le frac{x^4+3y^4}4 + frac{3x^4+y^4}4 = x^4+y^4$$
edited Nov 30 at 17:06
answered Nov 30 at 16:44
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@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
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@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
@MichaelRozenberg Good catch, thanks. Corrected now.
– mechanodroid
Nov 30 at 17:06
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Surely, if you get the first, you can get the second. However, is your version of AM-GM limited to just $sqrt{xy}leq1/2(x+y)$?
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:41
Yes, the book only allows us to assume $sqrt{xy} leq frac{1}{2}(x+y)$. The thing is, I can't get the first...
– Francis
Nov 30 at 16:43
1
This could be killed in a single line with Young's Inequality or the full power of the AM-GM inequality. However, since you're limited to just this special case, this will require more care. You'll probably either want to take an algebraic approach and find a polynomial that is definitely positive (like how one gets your inequality from $(x-y)^2geq 0$) or you'll want to take advantage of the fact that your inequality is most helpful when $x$ and $y$ are close together.
– Robert Wolfe
Nov 30 at 16:57
@RobertWolfe, thank you - but I'm not sure I see how $x$ and $y$ being close together could be helpful to me?
– Francis
Nov 30 at 17:01