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Let $V$ be a vector space and $v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4,w in V$
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2}$ - I believe this to be false, however I cannot come up with an appropriate counter-example, what would be a suitable counter-example?
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ - I believe this to be true but what is an appropriate proof to show this is true?
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Let $V$ be a vector space and $v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4,w in V$
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2}$ - I believe this to be false, however I cannot come up with an appropriate counter-example, what would be a suitable counter-example?
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ - I believe this to be true but what is an appropriate proof to show this is true?
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Let $V$ be a vector space and $v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4,w in V$
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2}$ - I believe this to be false, however I cannot come up with an appropriate counter-example, what would be a suitable counter-example?
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ - I believe this to be true but what is an appropriate proof to show this is true?
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Let $V$ be a vector space and $v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4,w in V$
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2}$ - I believe this to be false, however I cannot come up with an appropriate counter-example, what would be a suitable counter-example?
If $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $w in text{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ - I believe this to be true but what is an appropriate proof to show this is true?
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edited Nov 15 at 23:47
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Yes you are right, we have that
$$ w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} implies w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2}$$
only if $v_3=av_1+bv_2$.
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1.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2}$ is FALSE.
Take, for example, $v_1=(1,0,0)$, $v_2=(0,1,0)$ and $w=v_3=(0,0,1)$. Or just take any two vectors $v_1,v_2$ and $w=v_3$ independent to them.
2.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ is TRUE.
If $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} $,then $w=alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 =
alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 +0cdot v_4$, so $win{rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$.
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What about $v_3$? (Given ofcourse that $v_1,v_2,v_3$ are linearly independent)
If $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{1}$$ You can also write $(1)$ as $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{2}+0v_4$$ so $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$
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Yes you are right, we have that
$$ w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} implies w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2}$$
only if $v_3=av_1+bv_2$.
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Yes you are right, we have that
$$ w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} implies w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2}$$
only if $v_3=av_1+bv_2$.
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Yes you are right, we have that
$$ w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} implies w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2}$$
only if $v_3=av_1+bv_2$.
Yes you are right, we have that
$$ w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} implies w ∈ operatorname{span}{v_1,v_2}$$
only if $v_3=av_1+bv_2$.
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1.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2}$ is FALSE.
Take, for example, $v_1=(1,0,0)$, $v_2=(0,1,0)$ and $w=v_3=(0,0,1)$. Or just take any two vectors $v_1,v_2$ and $w=v_3$ independent to them.
2.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ is TRUE.
If $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} $,then $w=alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 =
alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 +0cdot v_4$, so $win{rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$.
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1.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2}$ is FALSE.
Take, for example, $v_1=(1,0,0)$, $v_2=(0,1,0)$ and $w=v_3=(0,0,1)$. Or just take any two vectors $v_1,v_2$ and $w=v_3$ independent to them.
2.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ is TRUE.
If $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} $,then $w=alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 =
alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 +0cdot v_4$, so $win{rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$.
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1.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2}$ is FALSE.
Take, for example, $v_1=(1,0,0)$, $v_2=(0,1,0)$ and $w=v_3=(0,0,1)$. Or just take any two vectors $v_1,v_2$ and $w=v_3$ independent to them.
2.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ is TRUE.
If $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} $,then $w=alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 =
alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 +0cdot v_4$, so $win{rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$.
1.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2}$ is FALSE.
Take, for example, $v_1=(1,0,0)$, $v_2=(0,1,0)$ and $w=v_3=(0,0,1)$. Or just take any two vectors $v_1,v_2$ and $w=v_3$ independent to them.
2.- $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} Rightarrow win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$ is TRUE.
If $win {rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3} $,then $w=alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 =
alpha_1v_1+alpha_2v_2+alpha_3v_3 +0cdot v_4$, so $win{rm span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$.
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What about $v_3$? (Given ofcourse that $v_1,v_2,v_3$ are linearly independent)
If $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{1}$$ You can also write $(1)$ as $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{2}+0v_4$$ so $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$
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What about $v_3$? (Given ofcourse that $v_1,v_2,v_3$ are linearly independent)
If $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{1}$$ You can also write $(1)$ as $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{2}+0v_4$$ so $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$
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What about $v_3$? (Given ofcourse that $v_1,v_2,v_3$ are linearly independent)
If $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{1}$$ You can also write $(1)$ as $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{2}+0v_4$$ so $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$
What about $v_3$? (Given ofcourse that $v_1,v_2,v_3$ are linearly independent)
If $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3}$, then $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{1}$$ You can also write $(1)$ as $$w=a_1v_1+a_2v_2+a_3v_3tag{2}+0v_4$$ so $wintext{span}{v_1,v_2,v_3,v_4}$
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