Can't plot DSolve's solution to Riccati differential equation
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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]
$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$
When I try plot this solution
Opresgraf =
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
I get a blank graph.
My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve
(not with NDSolve
, because in my student research project I need DSolve
) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve
.
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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]
$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$
When I try plot this solution
Opresgraf =
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
I get a blank graph.
My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve
(not with NDSolve
, because in my student research project I need DSolve
) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve
.
differential-equations
1
You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you needy[x]
noty
in the ODE itself.
– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
1
IsRange[-3.3]
supposed to beRange[-3,3]
?
– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26
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DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]
$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$
When I try plot this solution
Opresgraf =
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
I get a blank graph.
My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve
(not with NDSolve
, because in my student research project I need DSolve
) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve
.
differential-equations
DSolve gives a strange solution for the Riccati differential equation $ y' = (y^2) - 2 x^2 y + (x^4) + 2 x + 4 $
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2*y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x]
$left{left{y(x)to frac{1}{c_1 e^{4 i x}-frac{i}{4}}+x^2-2 iright}right}$
When I try plot this solution
Opresgraf =
Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3]], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
I get a blank graph.
My question is: how can I get a solution with DSolve
(not with NDSolve
, because in my student research project I need DSolve
) and plot that solution, the most important is to plot that general solution with DSolve
.
differential-equations
differential-equations
edited Nov 27 at 23:01
kglr
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asked Nov 27 at 18:10
Милош Вучковић
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You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you needy[x]
noty
in the ODE itself.
– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
1
IsRange[-3.3]
supposed to beRange[-3,3]
?
– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26
add a comment |
1
You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you needy[x]
noty
in the ODE itself.
– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
1
IsRange[-3.3]
supposed to beRange[-3,3]
?
– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26
1
1
You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need
y[x]
not y
in the ODE itself.– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need
y[x]
not y
in the ODE itself.– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
1
1
Is
Range[-3.3]
supposed to be Range[-3,3]
?– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26
Is
Range[-3.3]
supposed to be Range[-3,3]
?– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26
add a comment |
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Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
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With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.
There are 2 real ones:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &
$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$
I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]
:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0
(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)
which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:
Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]
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3
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Try this
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]
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The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
y[x], x]
]
yielding
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}
the solution is real valued.
We can use a symbolic initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c
. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1
gives a real valued generic solution.
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}
Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]
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4 Answers
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4 Answers
4
active
oldest
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active
oldest
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active
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up vote
7
down vote
perhaps
Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
add a comment |
up vote
7
down vote
perhaps
Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
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up vote
7
down vote
up vote
7
down vote
perhaps
Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
perhaps
Plot[Evaluate[ReIm@y[x] /. (Opres /. C[1] -> Range[-3, 3])], {x, -4.7, 4.7},
PlotRange -> 4.7]
answered Nov 27 at 18:27
kglr
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With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.
There are 2 real ones:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &
$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$
I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]
:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0
(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)
which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:
Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]
add a comment |
up vote
4
down vote
With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.
There are 2 real ones:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &
$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$
I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]
:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0
(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)
which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:
Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]
add a comment |
up vote
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up vote
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With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.
There are 2 real ones:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &
$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$
I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]
:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0
(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)
which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:
Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]
With a single graph you can only plot those solution that are imaginary or real.
There are 2 real ones:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol]]] == 0 // Solve[#, C[1]] &
$style{text-decoration:line-through}{left{left{C[1]to -frac{1}{4}right},left{C[1]to frac{1}{4}right}right}}$
I forgot to consider complex values of C[1]
:
sol = First[DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[x], x]];
zeroIm = Numerator[FullSimplify[ComplexExpand[Im[y[x] /. sol], C[1]]]] == 0
(* -2 + 32 Abs[C[1]]^2 == 0 *)
which is the equation of a circle of real solutions:
Manipulate[Plot[Evaluate[y[x] /. sol /. C[1] -> Sqrt[1/16] (Cos[t] + I Sin[t])],
{x, -4.7, 4.7}, Exclusions -> All], {t, 0, 2 π}]
edited Nov 28 at 11:21
answered Nov 27 at 18:33
Coolwater
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Try this
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]
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Try this
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]
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up vote
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Try this
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]
Try this
Opres = DSolve[y'[x] == y[x]^2-2x^2 *y[x]+x^4+2x+4, y[x], x][[1]];
Plot[{Re[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]],Im[y[x]/.Opres/.C[1]->Range[3.3]]}, {x,-4.7,4.7}]
answered Nov 27 at 18:24
Bill
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The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
y[x], x]
]
yielding
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}
the solution is real valued.
We can use a symbolic initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c
. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1
gives a real valued generic solution.
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}
Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]
add a comment |
up vote
1
down vote
The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
y[x], x]
]
yielding
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}
the solution is real valued.
We can use a symbolic initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c
. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1
gives a real valued generic solution.
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}
Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]
add a comment |
up vote
1
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up vote
1
down vote
The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
y[x], x]
]
yielding
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}
the solution is real valued.
We can use a symbolic initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c
. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1
gives a real valued generic solution.
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}
Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]
The general solution is not real valued. Try setting an initial condition:
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 1},
y[x], x]
]
yielding
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (4 + 8 I)/((2 - I) + (2 + I) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
which is not real valued (almost everywhere). However, for a different initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == 0},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> x^2 + 2 Tan[2 x]}}
the solution is real valued.
We can use a symbolic initial condition
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[0] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{y[x] -> -2 I + (8 - 4 I c)/(-2 I - c + (-2 I + c) E^(4 I x)) + x^2}}
and see that this complex valued behaviour is generic, but can be hidden with particular choices of the initial condition, c
. Note that we can give the initial condition at a different value of the independent variable, and get different behaviour altogether. In fact, providing an initial condition at x=1
gives a real valued generic solution.
FullSimplify[
DSolve[{y'[x] == y[x]^2 - 2 x^2*y[x] + x^4 + 2 x + 4, y[1] == c},
y[x], x]
]
{{ y[x] -> ( 2 (-1 + c + x^2) Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-4 + (-1 + c) x^2) Sin[2 - 2 x] )/
( 2 Cos[2 - 2 x] + (-1 + c) Sin[2 - 2 x] ) }}
Plot[Table[y[x] /. %[[1]], {c, -2, 2}], {x, -2, 2}]
answered Nov 28 at 4:48
Eric Towers
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You can't plot a complex expression. You need to either plot its real value, its imaginary value or its modulus. Also you have a typo in the input, you need
y[x]
noty
in the ODE itself.– Nasser
Nov 27 at 18:24
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Is
Range[-3.3]
supposed to beRange[-3,3]
?– That Gravity Guy
Nov 27 at 18:26