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define $beta$ is the $angle FCD$ in rogerl's answer.



$$
left{
begin{aligned}
2 R sinbeta &= 6 \
6 cos beta &= sqrt{14^2 - R^2}
end{aligned} right.
$$



define $x = cos^2beta$



we can get $36x^2 - 232x + 187 = 0 Rightarrow x = frac{17}{18}$



so $sinbeta = frac{1}{3sqrt{2}}$ and $R=9sqrt{2}$



thus $tanalpha = frac{R}{6cosbeta} = frac{9sqrt{2}}{6sqrt{frac{17}{18}}} = frac{9}{sqrt{17}}$






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    Let $R$ be the radius of the circle. Let $(R,0)$, $(x,y)$ and $(0,R)$ be the coordinates of the points belonging to the circle. Writing Pythagoras' theorem for the three right triangles that can be seen gives :



    $$left{begin{eqnarray}
    (a) &x^2+(y-R)^2&=&6^2\
    (b) &x^2+y^2&=&R^2\
    (c) &x^2+R^2&=&14^2
    end{eqnarray}right.$$



    From (c), one has $x^2=196-R^2$. Plugging this expression of $x^2$ in (a) and (b) gives a system of two equations with two unknowns $y$ and $R$ from which you should conclude that $y=8 sqrt{2}, R=9 sqrt{2}.$



    Thus $x^2=196-R^2=196-162=34$; then $x=sqrt{34}$.



    Then plug the results into the following formula : $tan alpha = R/x$ whence :



    $alpha = mathbb{atan}(R/x)=mathbb{atan}(9 sqrt{2}/sqrt{34})=mathbb{atan}(9/sqrt{17}) approx 1.1412$ (radians).



    i.e., approx. $64$ degrees and a half.






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    In the diagram below, from the given data, we have $AC = AD = r$, $CD=6$, $CE=14$. We want to find $CA$ and $AE$. Call $a=AE$, $b=ED$. Then from Pythagoras,
    $$r^2 + a^2 = 196,quad a^2+b^2 = r^2,quad a^2 + (r-b)^2 = 36.$$
    Solve these equations to find $r$ and $a$.



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      The task is to find $tanalpha$, you should favor a trigonometric approach.



      Note that $R=14sinalpha$.



      Denote the angle between the tangent and chord of 6cm with $beta$.
      Also note that if you draw lines from the center of the circle to both ends of the chord of 6cm, the angle between these two lines is $2beta$ (the proof is elementary).



      $$14cosalpha=6cosbetatag{1}$$



      $$2Rsinfrac{2beta}{2}=2times14sinalphasinbeta=6$$



      $$28sinalphasinbeta=6tag{2}$$



      Try to solve $alpha,beta$ from (1),(2). For example, express $cosbeta$ from (1) and $sinbeta$ from (2). Square these two expressions and add, $beta$ will disappear. You'll get a simple equation with angle $alpha$ being the only unknown.






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        define $beta$ is the $angle FCD$ in rogerl's answer.



        $$
        left{
        begin{aligned}
        2 R sinbeta &= 6 \
        6 cos beta &= sqrt{14^2 - R^2}
        end{aligned} right.
        $$



        define $x = cos^2beta$



        we can get $36x^2 - 232x + 187 = 0 Rightarrow x = frac{17}{18}$



        so $sinbeta = frac{1}{3sqrt{2}}$ and $R=9sqrt{2}$



        thus $tanalpha = frac{R}{6cosbeta} = frac{9sqrt{2}}{6sqrt{frac{17}{18}}} = frac{9}{sqrt{17}}$






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          define $beta$ is the $angle FCD$ in rogerl's answer.



          $$
          left{
          begin{aligned}
          2 R sinbeta &= 6 \
          6 cos beta &= sqrt{14^2 - R^2}
          end{aligned} right.
          $$



          define $x = cos^2beta$



          we can get $36x^2 - 232x + 187 = 0 Rightarrow x = frac{17}{18}$



          so $sinbeta = frac{1}{3sqrt{2}}$ and $R=9sqrt{2}$



          thus $tanalpha = frac{R}{6cosbeta} = frac{9sqrt{2}}{6sqrt{frac{17}{18}}} = frac{9}{sqrt{17}}$






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            define $beta$ is the $angle FCD$ in rogerl's answer.



            $$
            left{
            begin{aligned}
            2 R sinbeta &= 6 \
            6 cos beta &= sqrt{14^2 - R^2}
            end{aligned} right.
            $$



            define $x = cos^2beta$



            we can get $36x^2 - 232x + 187 = 0 Rightarrow x = frac{17}{18}$



            so $sinbeta = frac{1}{3sqrt{2}}$ and $R=9sqrt{2}$



            thus $tanalpha = frac{R}{6cosbeta} = frac{9sqrt{2}}{6sqrt{frac{17}{18}}} = frac{9}{sqrt{17}}$






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            define $beta$ is the $angle FCD$ in rogerl's answer.



            $$
            left{
            begin{aligned}
            2 R sinbeta &= 6 \
            6 cos beta &= sqrt{14^2 - R^2}
            end{aligned} right.
            $$



            define $x = cos^2beta$



            we can get $36x^2 - 232x + 187 = 0 Rightarrow x = frac{17}{18}$



            so $sinbeta = frac{1}{3sqrt{2}}$ and $R=9sqrt{2}$



            thus $tanalpha = frac{R}{6cosbeta} = frac{9sqrt{2}}{6sqrt{frac{17}{18}}} = frac{9}{sqrt{17}}$







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                Let $R$ be the radius of the circle. Let $(R,0)$, $(x,y)$ and $(0,R)$ be the coordinates of the points belonging to the circle. Writing Pythagoras' theorem for the three right triangles that can be seen gives :



                $$left{begin{eqnarray}
                (a) &x^2+(y-R)^2&=&6^2\
                (b) &x^2+y^2&=&R^2\
                (c) &x^2+R^2&=&14^2
                end{eqnarray}right.$$



                From (c), one has $x^2=196-R^2$. Plugging this expression of $x^2$ in (a) and (b) gives a system of two equations with two unknowns $y$ and $R$ from which you should conclude that $y=8 sqrt{2}, R=9 sqrt{2}.$



                Thus $x^2=196-R^2=196-162=34$; then $x=sqrt{34}$.



                Then plug the results into the following formula : $tan alpha = R/x$ whence :



                $alpha = mathbb{atan}(R/x)=mathbb{atan}(9 sqrt{2}/sqrt{34})=mathbb{atan}(9/sqrt{17}) approx 1.1412$ (radians).



                i.e., approx. $64$ degrees and a half.






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                Let $R$ be the radius of the circle. Let $(R,0)$, $(x,y)$ and $(0,R)$ be the coordinates of the points belonging to the circle. Writing Pythagoras' theorem for the three right triangles that can be seen gives :



                $$left{begin{eqnarray}
                (a) &x^2+(y-R)^2&=&6^2\
                (b) &x^2+y^2&=&R^2\
                (c) &x^2+R^2&=&14^2
                end{eqnarray}right.$$



                From (c), one has $x^2=196-R^2$. Plugging this expression of $x^2$ in (a) and (b) gives a system of two equations with two unknowns $y$ and $R$ from which you should conclude that $y=8 sqrt{2}, R=9 sqrt{2}.$



                Thus $x^2=196-R^2=196-162=34$; then $x=sqrt{34}$.



                Then plug the results into the following formula : $tan alpha = R/x$ whence :



                $alpha = mathbb{atan}(R/x)=mathbb{atan}(9 sqrt{2}/sqrt{34})=mathbb{atan}(9/sqrt{17}) approx 1.1412$ (radians).



                i.e., approx. $64$ degrees and a half.






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                • I have a little improved my solution...
                  – Jean Marie
                  Nov 16 at 0:38













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                Let $R$ be the radius of the circle. Let $(R,0)$, $(x,y)$ and $(0,R)$ be the coordinates of the points belonging to the circle. Writing Pythagoras' theorem for the three right triangles that can be seen gives :



                $$left{begin{eqnarray}
                (a) &x^2+(y-R)^2&=&6^2\
                (b) &x^2+y^2&=&R^2\
                (c) &x^2+R^2&=&14^2
                end{eqnarray}right.$$



                From (c), one has $x^2=196-R^2$. Plugging this expression of $x^2$ in (a) and (b) gives a system of two equations with two unknowns $y$ and $R$ from which you should conclude that $y=8 sqrt{2}, R=9 sqrt{2}.$



                Thus $x^2=196-R^2=196-162=34$; then $x=sqrt{34}$.



                Then plug the results into the following formula : $tan alpha = R/x$ whence :



                $alpha = mathbb{atan}(R/x)=mathbb{atan}(9 sqrt{2}/sqrt{34})=mathbb{atan}(9/sqrt{17}) approx 1.1412$ (radians).



                i.e., approx. $64$ degrees and a half.






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                Let $R$ be the radius of the circle. Let $(R,0)$, $(x,y)$ and $(0,R)$ be the coordinates of the points belonging to the circle. Writing Pythagoras' theorem for the three right triangles that can be seen gives :



                $$left{begin{eqnarray}
                (a) &x^2+(y-R)^2&=&6^2\
                (b) &x^2+y^2&=&R^2\
                (c) &x^2+R^2&=&14^2
                end{eqnarray}right.$$



                From (c), one has $x^2=196-R^2$. Plugging this expression of $x^2$ in (a) and (b) gives a system of two equations with two unknowns $y$ and $R$ from which you should conclude that $y=8 sqrt{2}, R=9 sqrt{2}.$



                Thus $x^2=196-R^2=196-162=34$; then $x=sqrt{34}$.



                Then plug the results into the following formula : $tan alpha = R/x$ whence :



                $alpha = mathbb{atan}(R/x)=mathbb{atan}(9 sqrt{2}/sqrt{34})=mathbb{atan}(9/sqrt{17}) approx 1.1412$ (radians).



                i.e., approx. $64$ degrees and a half.







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                In the diagram below, from the given data, we have $AC = AD = r$, $CD=6$, $CE=14$. We want to find $CA$ and $AE$. Call $a=AE$, $b=ED$. Then from Pythagoras,
                $$r^2 + a^2 = 196,quad a^2+b^2 = r^2,quad a^2 + (r-b)^2 = 36.$$
                Solve these equations to find $r$ and $a$.



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                  In the diagram below, from the given data, we have $AC = AD = r$, $CD=6$, $CE=14$. We want to find $CA$ and $AE$. Call $a=AE$, $b=ED$. Then from Pythagoras,
                  $$r^2 + a^2 = 196,quad a^2+b^2 = r^2,quad a^2 + (r-b)^2 = 36.$$
                  Solve these equations to find $r$ and $a$.



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                    In the diagram below, from the given data, we have $AC = AD = r$, $CD=6$, $CE=14$. We want to find $CA$ and $AE$. Call $a=AE$, $b=ED$. Then from Pythagoras,
                    $$r^2 + a^2 = 196,quad a^2+b^2 = r^2,quad a^2 + (r-b)^2 = 36.$$
                    Solve these equations to find $r$ and $a$.



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                    In the diagram below, from the given data, we have $AC = AD = r$, $CD=6$, $CE=14$. We want to find $CA$ and $AE$. Call $a=AE$, $b=ED$. Then from Pythagoras,
                    $$r^2 + a^2 = 196,quad a^2+b^2 = r^2,quad a^2 + (r-b)^2 = 36.$$
                    Solve these equations to find $r$ and $a$.



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                        The task is to find $tanalpha$, you should favor a trigonometric approach.



                        Note that $R=14sinalpha$.



                        Denote the angle between the tangent and chord of 6cm with $beta$.
                        Also note that if you draw lines from the center of the circle to both ends of the chord of 6cm, the angle between these two lines is $2beta$ (the proof is elementary).



                        $$14cosalpha=6cosbetatag{1}$$



                        $$2Rsinfrac{2beta}{2}=2times14sinalphasinbeta=6$$



                        $$28sinalphasinbeta=6tag{2}$$



                        Try to solve $alpha,beta$ from (1),(2). For example, express $cosbeta$ from (1) and $sinbeta$ from (2). Square these two expressions and add, $beta$ will disappear. You'll get a simple equation with angle $alpha$ being the only unknown.






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                          The task is to find $tanalpha$, you should favor a trigonometric approach.



                          Note that $R=14sinalpha$.



                          Denote the angle between the tangent and chord of 6cm with $beta$.
                          Also note that if you draw lines from the center of the circle to both ends of the chord of 6cm, the angle between these two lines is $2beta$ (the proof is elementary).



                          $$14cosalpha=6cosbetatag{1}$$



                          $$2Rsinfrac{2beta}{2}=2times14sinalphasinbeta=6$$



                          $$28sinalphasinbeta=6tag{2}$$



                          Try to solve $alpha,beta$ from (1),(2). For example, express $cosbeta$ from (1) and $sinbeta$ from (2). Square these two expressions and add, $beta$ will disappear. You'll get a simple equation with angle $alpha$ being the only unknown.






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                            The task is to find $tanalpha$, you should favor a trigonometric approach.



                            Note that $R=14sinalpha$.



                            Denote the angle between the tangent and chord of 6cm with $beta$.
                            Also note that if you draw lines from the center of the circle to both ends of the chord of 6cm, the angle between these two lines is $2beta$ (the proof is elementary).



                            $$14cosalpha=6cosbetatag{1}$$



                            $$2Rsinfrac{2beta}{2}=2times14sinalphasinbeta=6$$



                            $$28sinalphasinbeta=6tag{2}$$



                            Try to solve $alpha,beta$ from (1),(2). For example, express $cosbeta$ from (1) and $sinbeta$ from (2). Square these two expressions and add, $beta$ will disappear. You'll get a simple equation with angle $alpha$ being the only unknown.






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                            The task is to find $tanalpha$, you should favor a trigonometric approach.



                            Note that $R=14sinalpha$.



                            Denote the angle between the tangent and chord of 6cm with $beta$.
                            Also note that if you draw lines from the center of the circle to both ends of the chord of 6cm, the angle between these two lines is $2beta$ (the proof is elementary).



                            $$14cosalpha=6cosbetatag{1}$$



                            $$2Rsinfrac{2beta}{2}=2times14sinalphasinbeta=6$$



                            $$28sinalphasinbeta=6tag{2}$$



                            Try to solve $alpha,beta$ from (1),(2). For example, express $cosbeta$ from (1) and $sinbeta$ from (2). Square these two expressions and add, $beta$ will disappear. You'll get a simple equation with angle $alpha$ being the only unknown.







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