How can we find a minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. [closed]











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I can easily find the generators of direct product two known groups. Is there any way to found the minimal set of generators of the semidirect product of two groups. It can be seen easily that elements like (g,e) and (e,g) generate this group $S_3 rtimes S_3$.



Here the semidirect product is gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation.










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  • Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 16 at 6:42












  • Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Nov 19 at 6:54










  • @Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 20 at 6:29















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I can easily find the generators of direct product two known groups. Is there any way to found the minimal set of generators of the semidirect product of two groups. It can be seen easily that elements like (g,e) and (e,g) generate this group $S_3 rtimes S_3$.



Here the semidirect product is gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation.










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  • Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 16 at 6:42












  • Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Nov 19 at 6:54










  • @Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 20 at 6:29













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I can easily find the generators of direct product two known groups. Is there any way to found the minimal set of generators of the semidirect product of two groups. It can be seen easily that elements like (g,e) and (e,g) generate this group $S_3 rtimes S_3$.



Here the semidirect product is gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation.










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I can easily find the generators of direct product two known groups. Is there any way to found the minimal set of generators of the semidirect product of two groups. It can be seen easily that elements like (g,e) and (e,g) generate this group $S_3 rtimes S_3$.



Here the semidirect product is gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation.







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  • Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 16 at 6:42












  • Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Nov 19 at 6:54










  • @Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 20 at 6:29


















  • Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 16 at 6:42












  • Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
    – Jyrki Lahtonen
    Nov 19 at 6:54










  • @Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
    – MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
    Nov 20 at 6:29
















Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Nov 16 at 6:42






Here I want to know the minimal set of generators of $S_3 rtimes S_3$. Usually, we know that the group $S_3$ can be generated by two elements (12) and (123). Definitely
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Nov 16 at 6:42














Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 19 at 6:54




Which semi-direct product are you talking about? There are at least three non-isomorphic ones. i) the direct product, ii) the one gotten by letting $S_3$ act on itself by conjugation, and iii) the in-between case where $A_3$ acts trivially, but the 2-cycles all act by one of the order two automorphisms.
– Jyrki Lahtonen
Nov 19 at 6:54












@Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Nov 20 at 6:29




@Jykri Lehtonen Thanks for the reply, here semidirect product is by letting S_3 act on itself by conjugation.
– MANI SHANKAR PANDEY
Nov 20 at 6:29















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